Swahili is a language spoken in Eastern Africa, Afrikaans is spoken in South Africa and Namibia, Yiddish has 3 million speakers in the Orthodox Jewish communities, Malay is an official language in Brunei, Malaysia, and Singapore. Welsh is spoken in Wales, England and Argentina, Irish is spoken by a small minority of the Irish population, Macedonian has less than 3 million speakers and many enemies, while Belarusian has 9 million speakers.
The number of languages supported by Google Translate is 51, which is impressive, but there are still many popular languages that aren't supported. At least not yet.
{ via John Mueller }
I speek Icelandic nativity, been waiting for this for ages... Love Google!
ReplyDeleteStill waiting for Latin :-)
ReplyDeleteYou must have heard the phrase 'You will find a malayalee even on the moon!', but still Google hasn't rolled out translation for Malayalam (an Indian language which is supposedely the hardest language in Asia!) :(
ReplyDeleteMalay is very useful addition!
ReplyDeleteWhere did you get this map? Turkish is also supported but not shown in the map...
ReplyDeleteWaiting for Bengali :)
ReplyDeleteAccording to Wikipedia-
"With nearly 230 million total speakers, Bengali is one of the most spoken languages (ranking fifth or sixth) in the world."
It's really nice that Google support all these languages, but let's remember we're talking here about statistical machine translation that is good to have a clue what the text is about and that's all. If you really need good translation you need to use services like OneHourTranslation.com that have professional translators, or you risk your reputation. I do not recommend using a translation plug-in in your website if your readers aren't techies.
ReplyDeletePunjabi please
ReplyDeleteThank you Google.
ReplyDeleteMacedonia loves you. :)
even when you ruined my translation business :)
Google thank you for implement Macedonian language!
ReplyDeleteYeah, Bravo Google, Macedonian it is!
ReplyDeleteThank you Google for implementing Macedonian. We were waiting for this to happen and we're glad :)
ReplyDeleteThere are small glitches like irregular translations, but, we, the community, will give our contribution so that the translation will be better.
Thanks Google,
ReplyDeleteThanks from Macedonia.
And yes, as Martin said, we will give our contribution for better translation.
Браво Google што го имплементиравте македонскиот јазик.
ReplyDeleteпреведете си сега за да разберете што сум пишал Ч)
Thanks for the Macedonian :)
ReplyDeleteThank you Google!
ReplyDeleteGod bless you all!! :D
Macedonian has less than 3 million speakers and many enemies :D
This is excellent!! Thanks so much for sharing :) I'm an Irish speaker and I'm sure that this will hugely help promote Irish on the Internet!
ReplyDeleteThank you Google for Macedonian language, we've been waiting for ages.
ReplyDeleteYou can't add the Macedonian language because it doesn't exist any country with the name Macedonia. According to the United Nations the name is: "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" as you can see here: http://www.un.org/en/members/index.shtml
ReplyDeletehere: http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/macedonia.pdf
ReplyDeleteAnd here: http://data.un.org/CountryProfile.aspx?crName=The%20former%20Yugoslav%20Republic%20of%20Macedonia
ReplyDelete@Odisseas: your logic is completely flawed. There is no country named "Lule Sami", however, 2000 people have Lule Sami as their native language in northern Norway and Sweden. Speakers of Yiddish are spread all over the world, but in Judea they also speak variants of Arabic, Hebrew, etc. There is no one-to-one relation between languages and countries, far from it. Even English is spread over many countries that also have speakers of other languages (Navaho, Irish, Warlpiri, etc.)
ReplyDeleteWhat's "Macedonia"? Do you mean "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia"?
ReplyDeleteRead the news, Google. Or ask your brother, Google News. There are problems about this country's naming.
I agree with
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @ August 25, 2009 10:27 AM.
You are losing your reputation in Greece and many other countries all over the world with these things you are doing. If you want to impress 2 million people and lose more than 20 millions, well go on and do it... You'll lose...
thank you Google for Macedonian. As you said - has less than 3 million speakers and many enemies. we're used to this hate comments.
ReplyDeleteТи Благодарам Google :)
Finally, Google Translate offers Macedonian! :D
ReplyDeleteThank you Google, MUCH LOVE FROM MACEDONIA, keep it up people! =)
<3
Great! Google can speak Macedonian now...
ReplyDeleteHaters can do one job... That in what they are the best - to hate...
Thank you, Google!
ReplyDeleteGreetings from Macedonia!
@Odisseas: boo-hoo-hoo...
ReplyDeletecut it out allready and grow up!
greetings from macedonia
Thank you, Greetings from Macedonia
ReplyDeleteGoogle, let me join my compatriots in thanking you for adding Macedonian to your list. :)
ReplyDeleteMM.
Thank you Google for Macedonian language
ReplyDeleteKing Regards!
Thank you Google for the addition of the Macedonian language.
ReplyDeleteMacedonia for the Macedonians.
Well done!
ReplyDeleteMacedonia for the Macedonians so let the Greek racists deal with reality for once in their lives ..
Pegasus II
Thanks to Google for adding the Macedonian language to the list...
ReplyDeleteMAKEDONIJA ZA MAKEDONCITE!
Thank you Google for the Macedonian inclusion.
ReplyDelete@ Odisseas greatings from Macedonia.
I think google need to include Urdu in translation tool also.
ReplyDeletehow add mongolian language
ReplyDeleteThank you for including the Macedonian language Google! This is very handy.
ReplyDeleteThank you Google for implementing this language and respecting the right to the Macedonians to call themselves what they are.
ReplyDeleteSAMO NAPRED MAKEDONIJA!
ReplyDeleteMAKEDONIJA, MAKEDONIJA, MAKEDONIJA!!!
ReplyDeleteNice work Google. I been playing with Afrikaans, seems to have lots of Dutch remnants though and gets a few really odd things wrong.
ReplyDeleteI've created a patch and reported a bug against Fedora to make sure that libtranslate (a machine translation broker) is aware of these new Google languages.
We use libtranslate for Virtaal the desktop localisation (Computer Aided Translation) software that we develop.
Bravo Google and thank you for adding the Macedonian language to the list.
ReplyDeleteMacedonia Timeless!
Thank you for adding support for the Macedonian Language.
ReplyDeleteWe've waited so long for this.
Thank you again!
"Macedonian"??? What for?? If anyone wanted to translate them, he had only to choose Bulgarian from the list! LOL
ReplyDeleteThere is not any "Macedonian". Just a bastardised Western Bulgarian Dialect!
Thankyou for incorporating Macedonian in Google translate! It will be a helpful tool!
ReplyDeleteAs for the xenophobic comments. They speak more of you than any action you might take against Macedonian state!
Thank you google for the Macedonian translation,
ReplyDeleteif only i had it in my day,i wouldnt have had to speak that disgusting jibber jabber that my tutor taught me as a child,i think he called it koine or some such thing.
Alexander of Macedon.
ps Macedonia...Land of Legend Land of Glory..but NEVER greek!
Google, thank you for Slavomacedonian translation
ReplyDeletePut your hands away from our country. We are proud Slavomacedonians.
ReplyDeleteSlavomacedonia for ever.
SAMO NAPRED SLAVOMAKEDONIJA !
SLAVOMAKEDONIJA ZA SLAVOMAKEDONCITE!
DA ZIVEE SLAVOMAKEDONIJA !
ReplyDeleteDA ZIVEE FYROM !
PROUD SLAV FROM FYROM
I'm proud, i'am Slav, i'am fyromian from Vardarska.
ReplyDeleteDa zivee Vardarska !
hey even the greeks can speek Macedonian now
ReplyDeleteMakes posing as one of us just a bit easier.
only thing is that the "slavo" and "fyromian" stuff gives them away
poor little greek babies.....want to be everything but alas will always be nothing.
Thus, our friends Slavs from Vardarska, could tranlsate from their language (Bulgarian)to Greek, since many years, in order to learn about rich Macedonian history (Alexander, Philip, Aristotelis, Olympiada, Thessaloniki).
ReplyDeleteBut now, here's the chance :
We Greeks can learn easily the history of a proud nation, Slavomacedonians ( Goce Delchev Jane Sandanski Nikola Karev Dame Gruev Pitu Guli Dimo Hadgi-Dimov Gjorgi Sugarev Pere Toshev Jordan Piperkata ).
THE ONE HAND: ALEXANDROS AND ARISTOTELIS = GREEKS (MACEDONIANS)
THE OTHER HAND: GOCHE DELCHEV AND JANE SANTANSKI = SLAVS (BULGARO-FYROMIANS).
Is it possible to be in the same substrutum ARISTOTELIS and PERE TOSHEV ?????????????? BAD JOKE MR.GOOGLE!!!!!
Macedonian has less than 3 million speakers and many enemies....
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU GOOGLE.....YOU DID A GREAT JOB....will help us MACEDONIANS a lot....
a very simple question to greeks:
ReplyDeleteare you slavic,albanian,turkish origin or not?
when exactly did you greeks get your own country?....wasnt it in 1830 or something,and isnt the official name of your state...the hellenic republic?
who are you really?...most of you dont know what you are .....just that you want to be everything you are not...like Macedonian
Thanks Google, you did the right things.
ReplyDelete@Bulgarians Macedonians were acquiring bulgarian passports to ease their taxes on cars and to travel over Europe easier. It's an economic thing and it will go away in a few years. Deal with it.
@Greeks Cheer up, thanks to the translator now you can read easier what's happening over here and see that our government is retarded and "brainwash happy" as much as your government.
Thanks for MACEDONIAN language. It is very useful.
ReplyDeleteyou name macedonian the language created and named macedonian at 1944?
ReplyDeleteActually a bulgarian language with many servian insade.
Macedonians had ONLY one language, the Greek language and they spread ONLY Greek language and civilization to all known world.
There is no neighbor country at the area(Hellas, Bulgaria, Servia) recognize any nation called macedonian or ,macedonian language>.
Its just another one Slavic language and you can call it as you like, except Macedonian.
Macedonian language its the Greek Language spoked and still speaking throw centuries by Greeks.
Enough with the distortion of historical truth, google you challenge any civilized person on this planet.
One word says everything.
ReplyDelete"History"
We appreciate your move, Google.
ReplyDeleteThank you!
Another one move of propaganda which, unfortunately, is being made by an organization who wants to inform people - congradulations, you manage to misinform them!
ReplyDeleteI hope the money you got worth the blow in your image! Thankfully, there are other search engines..
I am Macedonian. No one can tell me who i am.
ReplyDeleteThx Google you did the right things!
Even the Hell(Asss) can speek Macedonian now.
In macedonian:
ReplyDeleteГугл Ви благодариме за додавањето на македонскиот јазик! Многу практично. Сега и мајка ми ќе употребува Гугл Транслејт :) Браво!
In english:
Google, thanks for adding the macedonian language! Very handy! Now even my mom can use Google Translate! :) Thumbs up!
Thanks Google,
ReplyDeleteThanks from Macedonian minority in Greece.
Благодарение на Google,
Благодарение од македонското малцинство во Грција.
Уште еднаш се докажа дека нашиот јазик постои и ќе постои а Гркот нека си го преведи ова сега на гугл,
ReplyDeleteTNX GOOGLE
Thank you Google for adding Macedonian language!
ReplyDeleteGod bless you!
Благодарам! :)
Google thank you a lot for adding macedonian in language's list . I was waiting this for a long time.It will be really helpfull for my essays and columns. Thank you once again .
ReplyDeleteAnd for all greeks and bulgarians:
Our language is very different from yours. We dont have any extra similarities.
Today (figuratively speaking) many people find out that they made a big mistake when they split our country to so-called "good" neighbors.
- „We have "good neighbor relationship"! ( I hate this fraze especially when it's spoken by Athens's Government )“.
Hahaha this is just from our side . We are the good one.You are our enemies ' coz the only thing you do , ectually the only thing you want is our territory, our language, our culture because all these, every peace of MACEDONIA is unique.MACEDONIA is ancies, timeless.
So you want to be good neighbors, leave this country alone or you are afraid of us , 3 million people because you know that we have the right about everything.
However one thing should be clear , we are Macedonians we'll always be no mather what you say or do.
We will never betray the country.
MACEDONIA TIMELESS
МАКЕДОНИЈА ВЕЧНА
There is not any "Macedonian"
ReplyDeleteMacedonia is Greek.
fyrom is vardarska and is slavs.
A very simple question to slavic peoples: What does the name ALEXANDER mean?
NOT GOOD mr.google not good
Many of us the use google.
Thank you Google!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for Macedonian language!
Macedonia Timeless!
* matter ( sorry for this mistake)
ReplyDelete"...Macedonian has less than 3 million speakers and many enemies..."
ReplyDeletenobody hates them, they are the enemy oh the historical truth.
"Macedonian" Language: a fabricated one, mixed Bulgarian and Serbian!!!
From wikipedia...
"The first official Macedonian grammar was developed by Krume Kepeski. One of the most important contributors in the standardisation of the Macedonian literary language was Blaže Koneski. The first document written in the literary standard Macedonian language is the first issue of the Nova Makedonija newspaper in 1944. Makedonska Iskra (Macedonian Spark) was the first Macedonian newspaper to be published in Australia, from 1946 to 1957. A monthly with national distribution, it commenced in Perth and later moved to Melbourne and Sydney."
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"In most sources in and out of Bulgaria before the Second World War, the southern Slavonic dialect continuum covering the area of today's Republic of Macedonia and Northern Greece was referred to as group of Bulgarian dialects. The local variants of the name of the language were also balgàrtzki, bùgarski or bugàrski; i.e. Bulgarian.[63] Although Bulgaria was the first country to recognize the independence of the Republic of Macedonia, most of its academics, as well as the general public, regard the language spoken there as a form of Bulgarian.[9] However after years of diplomatic impasse caused by an academic dispute, in 1999 the government in Sofia solved the problem with the Macedonian Language under the euphemistic formula: "the official language of the country (Republic of Macedonia) in accordance with its constitution"."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_language
Рики: THANK YOU & BRAVO GOOGLE! YOU ARE THE BEST!
ReplyDeleteTo everybody who wants to learn about the origin of Macedonians living today in Republic of Macedonia, here it is one scientific answer:
https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=40
https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=8
When facts speak, even the gods are silent!!!
As you can clearly see from both links, there are far more Slavs in Greece than in Republic of Macedonia, and there is much more stronger genetic link between Antic Macedonians and Macedonians from Republic of Macedonia (30%), rather than link with Greece of only 5%.
So Greeks, Please f*ck off!
A very simple question to slavic peoples: What does the name ALEXANDER mean?
ReplyDelete"A very simple question to slavic peoples: What does the name ALEXANDER mean?"
ReplyDeleteYou mean Alexandar? :p
It's is well known, and historicaly proven (only in their minds), that the Alexandar's mother language was the ancient Macedonian language, the one that the people of the Republic speak nowdays!!! :Ppppppp
compare "macedonian" and bulgarian language to find out your big mistake Google Sirs...
ReplyDeleteWonderful. If you add Basque, Quechua, Esperanto, as well as Pinyin / Romaji rendering, your system will be perfect!
ReplyDeleteahaha "a language with enemies"!!!!
ReplyDeleteonly vardarskians could do that!
thanks God,in greek edition Google is accurate
ReplyDelete"Slavomacedonian"!
Thank you Google for adding the dialect of the Former Yugoslav Republic North of Macedonia, a true Bulgarian dialect indeed. You may want to consider Quebecois as well since it is so much different than French...or is it?
ReplyDelete332 classical scholars from around the world, sent a letter to the President of the United States of America, Barack Obama.
ReplyDelete"Rather, Macedonia and Macedonian Greeks have been located for at least 2,500 years just where the modern Greek province of Macedonia is. Exactly this same relationship is true for Attica and Athenian Greeks, Argos and Argive Greeks, Corinth and Corinthian Greeks, etc.
We do not understand how the modern inhabitants of ancient Paionia, who speak Slavic – a language introduced into the Balkans about a millennium after the death of Alexander – can claim him as their national hero. Alexander the Great was thoroughly and indisputably Greek. His great-great-great grandfather, Alexander I, competed in the Olympic Games where participation was limited to Greeks."
If you want to read it full it's all here: http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html
LIST OF CO-SIGNERS:
NAME TITLE INSTITUTION
Anagnostis P. Agelarakis, Professor of Anthropology, Adelphi University (USA)
Ioannis M. Akamatis, Professor of Classical Archaeology, University of Thessaloniki (Greece)
June W. Allison, Professor Emerita, Department of Greek and Latin, The Ohio State University (USA)
Georgios Anagnostopoulos, Professor of Philosophy, University of California-San Diego (USA)
Mariana Anagnostopoulos, Assistant Professor of Philosophy, California State University, Fresno (USA)
Ronnie Ancona, Professor of Classics, Hunter College and The Graduate Center, CUNY (USA)
John P. Anton, Distinguished Professor of Greek Philosophy and Culture University of South Florida (USA)
Dr. Norman George Ashton, Senior Honorary Research Fellow, The University of Western Australia (Australia)
Lucia Athanassaki, Associate Professor of Classical Philology, University of Crete (Greece)
Effie F. Athanassopoulos, Associate Professor Anthropology and Classics, University of Nebraska-Lincoln (USA)
Harry C. Avery, Professor of Classics, University of Pittsburgh (USA)
Dr. Dirk Backendorf. Akademie der Wissenschaften und der Literatur Mainz (Germany)
Elizabeth C. Banks, Associate Professor of Classics (ret.), University of Kansas (USA)
Leonidas Bargeliotes, Emeritus Professor of Philosophy, University of Athens, President of the Olympic Center for Philosophy and Culture (Greece)
Alice Bencivenni, Ricercatore di Storia Greca, Universita di Bologna (Italy)
David L. Berkey, Assistant Professor of History, California State University, Fresno (USA)
Luigi Beschi, professore emerito di Archeologia Classica, Universita di Firenze (Italy)
Josine H. Blok, professor of Ancient History and Classical Civilization, Utrecht University (The Netherlands)
Alan Boegehold, Emeritus Professor of Classics, Brown University (USA)
Efrosyni Boutsikas, Lecturer of Classical Archaeology, University of Kent (UK)
Ewen Bowie, Emeritus Fellow, Corpus Christi College, Oxford (UK)
Keith Bradley, Eli J. and Helen Shaheen Professor of Classics, Concurrent Professor of History, University of Notre Dame (USA)
Kostas Buraselis, Professor of Ancient History, University of Athens (Greece)
Stanley M. Burstein, Professor Emeritus, California State University, Los Angeles (USA)
Francis Cairns, Professor of Classical Languages, The Florida State University (USA)
John McK. Camp II, Agora Excavations and Professor of Archaeology, ASCSA, Athens (Greece)
David A. Campbell, Emeritus Professor of Classics. University of Victoria, B.C. (Canada)
Paul Cartledge, A.G. Leventis Professor of Greek Culture, University of Cambridge (UK)
Paavo Castren, Professor of Classical Philology Emeritus, University of Helsinki (Finland)
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To see the full list of the Scholars, follow the link...
http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html#obamacosigners
Why do the programmers of goolge put so much effort to add the "Macedonian" language, since the combination of the Bulgarian and Serbian translations worked just fine? :P
ReplyDeleteThanks to google for adding the Macedonian language.
ReplyDeleteDon't listen to the bulgarian and greek racist!
Cheers
MACEDONIA IS GREECE..... U ARE SLAVS!!!! WAKE UP!!! LEARN HISTORY !!
ReplyDeleteIf falsifications of historical facts are condoned and promoted by Google, what other lies are presentd and promoted as facts: Google Maps and geographies, climate change and weather patterns, environmental conditions, Financial and medical data? ... Way to go Google, eroding credibility is bad for business, simply GOOGLESS.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe that this is right. It isn't exist any language with the name Makedonian. A language with the name Bulgarian exist but no Makedonian. Put out that from the translator!!!
ReplyDeleteAccusing Greeks and Bulgsarians as racists while at the same time the Slavs of the Former Yugoslav Republic North of Macedonia are scrambling for a race and an ethnicity is an awkward position to be in.
ReplyDeleteHow does Google translate Sashe Velikiot? simply Googless
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing, of course, is that “Macedonians” are Slavs, Bulgarians basically, so they have no connection to Alexander other than their ancestors having relatively recently moved to the real estate he used to rule. And yet they’re holding him up as some sort of font of legitimacy
ReplyDeletehttp://www.hellenesonline.com/go/2009/08/antiquization/
What does Macedonian mean; What does does Alexander mean; What does Phillip mean; from wich language are these names; The Answer will be forever the same! GREEK
ReplyDeleteSo go and Fuck Your Self BulgarMaks from Monkeydonia without Historie, Pride and Glory.
Thanks Google, so everyone can see that Google is an Unhistorical Instrument!
There so called "Macedonian" language is a invention of the Tito regime, former Yugoslavia, that is a fact wether the FYROMskies like it or not!
ReplyDeletethe term "Macedonian" for their language is misleading as the citizens of FYROM do not hold any geographical nor cultural nor linguistic primacy over the region of Macedonia (FYROM doesnt include any lands of Historic Macedonia! LOL!). These people have NOTHING in association with the ancient/byzantine/medieval Macedonians which were GREEK and the only language they spoke was GREEK.
the so called "Macedonian" language is a BULGRARIAN dialect in which the Yugoslavian regime in the eraly 50s added Serbian letters to de-Bulgarize it.
Google u have messed up big time
since when the vardar-macedonian west Bulagrian slavic dialect is called just "Macedonian"?
ReplyDeletewasnt it wlways called "slavomacedonian"?
Dear low selfesteem plagiarist wannabie Macedonians, u can thank google all u want.
ReplyDeletefact is ur language is a TITO fabrication and its name will be changed soon along with ur country name
u are the biggest FAKES on the planet.. u are the laughing stock of the balcans and the academic societies around the world
Голема благодарност до Google сега мојот бизнис ќе ми оди полесно. и поздрав до нашиот јужен сосед, напишани сме со нашето вистинско име :)
ReplyDeletei could translate the monkeydonian text above just by using Serbian! LOL!
ReplyDeleteThere is no Macedonian dialect...It is a mixture of Slavic and Bulgarian languages..Nothing in common with Alexander the Great, Phillip the Second,and all other major Greek names and symbols that FYROM claims. Really, can anyone explain what Alexander means? Or Phillipos?
ReplyDeleteAlex-ander comes from alex(=away) and anhr=man and means the one who is away from men.
Phillipus comes from phil- meaning the one who loves and ipos=horse( see hippopotamus from example)
This whole forgery of history and language must stop. It is unaccepted and, in the end, futile
The citizens of FYROM-Skopje are of Bulgarian and Serbian origin and so is their language. Anyone with a little knowledge of languages would agree 100% about that!
Google, you should ask any major and honourable historian in any American University before making so insulting mistakes.
ReplyDeleteA Bulgarian politician is offering 1000000 euros to the one who finds evidence of the existence of Macedonian state, before 1945. FYROM is a fabricated country with hostile and illusive intentions to every one of its neighbours. You really should correct all that and respect the truth.
shame on Google for supporting these plagiarists of History!
ReplyDelete"i could translate the monkeydonian text above just by using Serbian! LOL!"
ReplyDeleteIndeed!!! How pathetic!!! :)
"Google, you should ask any major and honourable historian in any American University before making so insulting mistakes.
ReplyDeleteA Bulgarian politician is offering 1000000 euros to the one who finds evidence of the existence of Macedonian state, before 1945. FYROM is a fabricated country with hostile and illusive intentions to every one of its neighbours. You really should correct all that and respect the truth."
332 Classical Scholars from all over the world signed a letter that was sent to the President Barack Obama! In that letter they tell FYROM to stop stealing and manipulating history about Macedonia and Alexander the Great... they know better than some brainwashed wannabe "Macedonians"!
The letter:
http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html
The signatures:
http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html#obamacosigners
History is history nobody has the right to change it or twist it just to become someone!
Can the Greeks claim they are Italians? What would the Italians reaction be if the Greeks claimed that? They would think they are the joke of the year, or better the joke of the millennium... that's what the Fyromians are, a joke!
FYROM History: UNDER CONSTRUCTION...
I'm from Macedonia and I speak Greek. Why have you added a Bulgarian dialect as "Macedonian"? Please correct this grave mistake or you risk alienating your Greek friends.
ReplyDeleteThe name for the language should be "Macedonian Slavic". There is also a Macedonian Greek dialect and the current monopolization of the name Macedonian is offensive to Greek readers.
ReplyDeletegoole, you should find another name for the language you have called macedonian. The language spoken in macedonia is Greek. I propose to call it Serbo-albano-boulgarian. You contribute to a confusing initiated by Stalin and Tito in the midst of the Cold War and continues to the present day.
ReplyDeleteSee this:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Edward_R._Stettinius
This is offensive !!!!
ReplyDeleteMacedonians where always speaking Greek as they are actually Greeks.
I will never use this search engine again an i will delete my gmail acount.
You misinform people trying to change Greece's glorious history....
Google you suck !!!!!!
I think this discussion is already off-topic. This post isn't about history or international affairs, it's about Google Translate, a great service that lets you translate documents in more than 50 languages. If you think that Macedonian is not a distinct language or the name is not accurate, that's your opinion. As long as it's an officially-recognized language, Google has no right to treat the situation subjectively.
ReplyDeleteLearn to respect other people and use Google Translate to find more about other countries.
Library of Congress??????????????????????????????????????
ReplyDeleteThe Library's mission is to make its resources available and useful to the Congress and the American people....
ReplyDeleteAmerican people, mr.google
Encarta:
ReplyDeleteMacedonian Language, official language of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. Because there are no clear linguistic divisions that correspond to the geopolitical divisions in the South Slavic language area, there is considerable dispute about how to classify the Macedonian language. Bulgaria denies the existence of a Macedonian language, classifying the spoken language as a southwest Bulgarian dialect and the written language as a “regional norm” of Bulgarian. Until the end of World War II (1939-1945), Serbs called Macedonian a south Serbian dialect. Many scholars in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, on the other hand, consider dialects spoken in Bulgaria and Serbia to be part of the Macedonian language. Greeks oppose the use of the name “Macedonia” to refer to the former Yugoslav republic, and they object as well to calling the language of that region “Macedonian.”
Macedonian is the native language of most inhabitants of the republic, and the second language for Albanians and other minority inhabitants. Together with the closely related Bulgarian language, Macedonian forms the eastern group of the South Slavic branch of the Slavic languages. Macedonian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, as do the Russian, Bulgarian, and Serbian languages.
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761574734/Macedonian_Language.html
Wikipedia:
Macedonian (Mk-Makedonski jazik.ogg македонски јазик (help·info), IPA: [maˈkɛdɔnski ˈjazik]) is the official language of Republic of Macedonia and is a part of the Eastern group of South Slavic languages. Macedonian is closely related to and shares a high degree of mutual intelligibility with the Bulgarian language and to a certain extent with Serbian and Croatian languages.[5]
The Macedonian language is a subject of controversy with Macedonia's neighbouring countries: Greeks challenge the legitimacy of its name, while many Bulgarians deny its separateness from Bulgarian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_language
So the correct would be Macedonian Slavic. It's wrong that google takes sides!
Let's say you're from Australia, you write a cool software and then you decide to translate the interface in French, Italian, German and Japanese. And then you get a lot of messages from a country named Macedonia: people want an interface in their own language and they even send you the translation. What do you do? Tell them that Macedonian is not a language?
ReplyDeletehttp://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N93/240/37/IMG/N9324037.pdf?OpenElement
ReplyDeleteFYROM Mr.google , FYROM Mr.google no MACEDONIA but FYROM
from UNITED NATIONS and no ot Library of American Congress
UNITED NATIONS mr.google
Unacceptable, i know no country with the name Macedonia, only region so how can there be a macedonian language?
ReplyDeleteofficial wikipedia article:
The first country to be known by this name was the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, which before 3 October 1929 was known as the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. It was established on 1 December 1918 by the union of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and the Kingdom of Serbia (to which the Kingdom of Montenegro was annexed on 13 November 1918, and the Conference of Ambassadors in Paris gave international recognition to the union on 13 July 1922[1]). The Kingdom of Yugoslavia was invaded by the Axis powers in 1941, and because of the events that followed, was officially abolished in 1943 and 1945.
The second country with this name was the Democratic Federal Yugoslavia, proclaimed in 1943 by the Yugoslav Partisans resistance movement in World War II. It was renamed to the Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia in 1946, when a communist government was established. In 1963, it was renamed again to the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRY). This was the largest Yugoslav state, as Istria and Rijeka were added to the new Yugoslavia after the end of World War II. The constituent eight Socialist Republics and Socialist Autonomous Provinces that made up the country, were: SR Bosnia and Herzegovina, SR Croatia, SR Macedonia, SR Montenegro, SR Slovenia and SR Serbia (including the autonomous provinces of SAP Vojvodina and SAP Kosovo which were also equal members of the federation). Starting in 1991, the SFRY disintegrated in the Yugoslav Wars which followed the secession of most of the country's constituent entities.
read and learn
Thank you Google for being so stupid by adding Macedonian language.
ReplyDelete"I think this discussion is already off-topic. This post isn't about history or international affairs, it's about Google Translate, a great service that lets you translate documents in more than 50 languages. If you think that Macedonian is not a distinct language or the name is not accurate, that's your opinion. As long as it's an officially-recognized language, Google has no right to treat the situation subjectively."
ReplyDeleteno one said its not a great service.
However since google has an INTERNATIONAL presence, it should RESPECT INTERNATIONAL issues, like the "Macedonia name conflict" between Greece and FYROM which is led by the UN and supported by the US.
According to the UN there is no such name for a country or language.
And yes Greece is NOT THE ONLY COUNTRY that denies the existance the term "Macedonian" for FYROM's slavic language.
Please change it to "Macedonian Slavic", as the current name "Macedonian" IS OFFENSIVE for over 3 million MACEDONIANS(Greeks)
Alex Chitu said on August 26, 2009 2:37 PM PDT:
ReplyDelete"Let's say you're from Australia, you write a cool software and then you decide to translate the interface in French, Italian, German and Japanese. And then you get a lot of messages from a country named Macedonia: people want an interface in their own language and they even send you the translation. What do you do? Tell them that Macedonian is not a language?"
Totaly irrelevant Alex
i am sure they can interface with a term like "FYROM slavic" or "Macedonian slavic" until the UN led name conflict is resolved.
or TELL over 3 million Greeks and the world's academics that the a Macedonian language exists and is a Slav language!!!! I am sorry but no INSCRIPTIONS of such a language exists prior to 1945.
Thank you Google now all people from Greece should start using another search engine that respects history
ReplyDelete@ Alex Chitu
ReplyDeletethere is no country called Macedonia. Macedonia is a prefecture of Greece (for the last 3.000 years!!!)
The country in question, is called Fyromacedonia temporarily, until a permanent solution
Screw GOOGLE and its political games & support to the world's greatest history crooks!
ReplyDeleteGreeks boycott Google!
I wonder if there is even a linguist who agrees that there is such a language (Macedonian).
ReplyDeleteThis is wrong and must be corrected.
I call for a world-wide Hellenic boycott of Google and any other related Google programs etc. until this blatant attempt of anti-Hellenism is reversed with an apology- I urge the 20 million Hellenes worldwide to delete their gmail accounts like I will; stop using Google Android and so on to effectively tell Google where it can go for fanning the flames of extremism and expansionism. Henceforth I am instructing family, friends and others to boycott Google and will never use any of their services again.
ReplyDeleteBoycott!
So why are you upset all of a sudden? Before this update, Google offered a Macedonian version at http://www.google.com/intl/mk/. There's also a Moldovan interface at http://www.google.com/intl/mo/, even if Romanians think that Moldovan is not a distinct language. It's not Google's job to solve the conflicts between different countries.
ReplyDeleteGoogle can offer any versions they want. Our problem is not that FYROMians speak a different, a distinct lanuage or some dialect what so ever. Greece recognizes they have their own language.
ReplyDeleteOur problem is the NAME of the language, which is misleading.
@Alex Chitu
ReplyDeleteTo clarify things. The google has done a great job and deserve congratulations. We complain about the name of the language, which can not be "Macedonian". I think that it is clear and you have already understand that there is a problem with the name by which you name the language. Change the name of the language and everything is ok
Does Google dare to add "Kurdish" which it is a more real language than the "Macedonian" one and spoken by over 25 million worldwide? i dont think so, cause Turks will woop Google's butt..
ReplyDeleteI am Macedonian, thus Greek, and I can understand the original Macedonian translation (the real Macedonian, Greek) without the false implementation you have right now (the one you call "macedonian" is a Bulgarian dialekt, fused with Serbian elements) - I would expect google to update that.
ReplyDeleteOh good lord, people, take a chill pill. Do you have any idea how utterly provincial your bickering is? It's like Tweedledee and Tweedledum bashing each other upside the head. "Alexander the Great was ours! No, ours! No, ours, you history-distorting poo-poo-heads!! No, ours, you uncivilised ignoramuses!!!" Pathetic all around.
ReplyDeleteThank you Google for adding MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE! Bulgaria and Greece (the enemies) will die from jealousy!
ReplyDeleteBOYCOTT GOOGLE!
ReplyDeleteTHERE IS NO MACEDONIAN NATION!
ReplyDeleteTHE HABITANTS OF THIS COUNTRY ARE SLAVS.
THERE IS SCIENTIFICALLY NO MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE!
THEY SPEAK A BULGARIAN DIALECT.
"MACEDONIA" IS A GREEK NAME AND HIS HISTORY BELONGS TO THE GREEK CULTURE!
THIS IS OUR IDENTITY AND THEY CANNOT CHANGE HISTORY WITH THEIR PROPAGANDA.
ENOUGH WITH THIS JOKE!
THE REAL NAME OF THIS COUNTRY IS "VARDARSKA"!
IL N'EXISTE PAS DE NATION MACEDONIENNE!
LES HABITANTS DE CE PAYS SONT SLAVES.
SCIENTIFIQUEMENT LA LANGUE MACEDONIENNE N'EXISTE PAS.
LEUR LANGUAGE EST UN DIALECTE BULGARE.
LE NOM "MACECOINE" EST GREC ET SON HISTOIRE APARTIENT A LA CULTURE GRECQUE.
C'EST NOTRE IDENTITE ET ILS NE PEUVENT PAS CHANGER L'HISTOIRE AVEC LEUR PROPAGANDE.
ASSEZ AVEC CETTE BLAGUE!
LE NOM REEL DE CE PAYS EST "VARDARSKA"!
Kiro Gligorov, the 1st President of F.Y.R.O.M. says:“We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century [AD]… we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians, we have no connection to Alexander the Great and his Macedonia. .“
Kiro Gligorov, le 1er President de l'A.R.Y.M. dit:“ Nous sommes Slaves qui sont venus dans la region au 16eme siecle [Apres J.C.]... nous ne sommes pas descendants des anciens Macedonniens, nous n'avons pas de connection avec Alexandre le Grand et sa Macedoine.."
(Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35).
SWEET DREAMS MONKEYDONIANS!
GOOGLE, GO LEARN SOME HISTORY!!!
skopje fyrom was also a occupied by the romans...is there any chance that julious ceasar was slav too??
ReplyDeleteTo everybody who wants to learn about the origin of Macedonians living today in Republic of Macedonia, here it is one scientific answer:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=40
https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=8
WHEN FACTS SPEAK, EVEN THE GODS ARE SILENT!!!
(Or maybe greeks are beyond gods)
As you can clearly see from both links, there are far more Slavs in Greece (20% of 11 mill. population is 2.2 million Slavs) than in Republic of Macedonia (15% of 2.1 mill. is 0.3 mill Slavs), and there is much more stronger genetic link between Antic Macedonians and Macedonians from Republic of Macedonia (30%), rather than link with Greece of only 5%.
Great news FYRoMians!!
ReplyDeleteI am awaiting for the moment were Google will change it to Northern Macedonian though..
A Slavic dialect, very similar to Bulgarian, if not almost identical.
The name of FYRoM is under negotiations in the UN.
Just letting Google know..
Please do not spread your flawed propaganda of genetic tests that have been proven far from scientificaly stable.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, those 'genetic' tests you are referring to have been totally rebuffed by the serious scientific world, so please, lets celebrate google's diversity in adding new languages, and stop this ridiculous lies your government feeds you from the day you were born.
Alex Chitu I appreciate your opinion, truly independent and cosmopolitan spirit! Greetings from Macedonia!
ReplyDeleteThank you heaps for adding the Macedonian language. GOOGLE YOU R THE BEST!
ReplyDeleteFor those of you fckrs who will not use the google services, WE WILL USE DOUBLE!
ReplyDeleteThere are lot of MACEDONIANS who are in the USA, Canada, Australia, etc, and who will support Google through everything!
All of you mind your own businesses, you cannot be Greek and Macedonian as well; or tomorrow you will say that you are maybe North Americans as well? Bastards!
It is not Greece/Hellas that suddenly remembered that we have ancient roots.
ReplyDeleteIt is not Greece/Hellas who fabricate identities and languages.
It is not Greece/Hellas who's governments rename every street, every stadium, every name with historical figures of neighboring countries.
It is not Greece/Hellas, who thinks that Bulgaria and FYRoM ARE ENEMIES!
ON THE CONTRARY, SLAVIC FRIENDS, GREECE WANTS PEACE!,
IT IS YOU WHO HATE US, NOT HELLAS!
i REPEAT A COMMENT I READ ON TOP WHICH IS EXACTLY'S GREECES ISSUE:
ReplyDeleteGoogle can offer any versions they want. Our problem is not that FYROMians speak a different,
a distinct language or some dialect what so ever.
Greece recognizes they have their own language.
Our problem is the NAME of the language, which is misleading.''
"Anonymous Anonymous said on August 27, 2009 3:21 AM PDT:
ReplyDeleteIt is not Greece/Hellas that suddenly remembered that we have ancient roots.
YES, IT IS HellAss THAT SUDDENLY AFTER 1990 STARTED WITH CAMPAIGN OF STEALING EVERYTHING THAT IS MACEDONIAN
It is not Greece/Hellas who fabricate identities and languages.
YES, IT IS HellAss THAT IS NOT RECOGNIZING ANY MINORITIES IN THEIR COUNTRY. THIS FASCIST POLICY OF PURE NATION IS STILL HAPPENING IN 21st CENTURY IN HellAss.
It is not Greece/Hellas who's governments rename every street, every stadium, every name with historical figures of neighboring countries.
YES, IT IS HellAss THAT STARTED FROM 1990 RENAMING EVERYTHING WITH MACEDONIA (SOLUN (THESSALONIKI) AIRPORT, AND SO ON ..) AND PLACING SCULPTURES WITH ALEXANDER THE GREAT EVERYWHERE
It is not Greece/Hellas, who thinks that Bulgaria and FYRoM ARE ENEMIES!
YES, IT IS HellAss THAT IS AFRAID THAT A SMALL COUNTRY LIKE MACEDONIA OF 2 mill. INHABITANTS WILL START A WAR AGAINST 11 mill. IN HellAss
Само напред Македонио! Напред Македонци!
ReplyDeleteGoogle can offer any versions they want. Our problem is not that FYROMians speak a different, a distinct language or some dialect what so ever.
ReplyDeleteGreece recognizes that FYROM have their own language. Greece's problem is the NAME of the language, which is misleading.
Anonymous said on August 27, 2009 4:12 AM PDT:
ReplyDelete"Anonymous Anonymous said on August 27, 2009 3:21 AM PDT:
It is not Greece/Hellas that suddenly remembered that we have ancient roots.
YES, IT IS HellAss THAT SUDDENLY AFTER 1990 STARTED WITH CAMPAIGN OF STEALING EVERYTHING THAT IS MACEDONIAN ETS ETS ETS...
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Have you been to school? or are you getting your education from all the nationalistic, hate inspiring forums you get your info from..
Every single of your arguments is totally flawed and simply not true.
Classic example of the propaganda FYRoMs current government bombards you with..
Greeks have always been proud Athenians, Proud Spartans, proud MACEDONIANS..
Honestly your lack of knowledge and history is disturbing..
And with what you write, it makes my point even clearer.
By resolution A/RES/47/225 of 8 April 1993, the General Assembly decided to admit as a Member of the United Nations the State being provisionally referred to for all purposes within the United Nations as "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" pending settlement of the difference that had arisen over its name
ReplyDeleteFUROM mr.google
Greeks don`t have anything in common with the name “Macedonia“, their name is Greece (or HellAss), so I don`t see any problem for them, unless they want something that is not theirs and belongs to the neighboring country.
ReplyDeleteGood job Google! Good job indeed!
ReplyDeleteCorrection: Ancient Macedonian kingdom, not Greek kingdom of Macedonia!It was never a Greek kingdom! If it was Greek, than would be “Kingdom of Greece“ not “Kingdom of Macedonia“. As simple as that. Macedonians conquered Greeks in ancient times, and we hate each other since than. But it is so strange that today Greeks are claiming to be Macedonians, since Macedonians were their biggest enemies in antiquity. Alexander the Great is actually Alexander the Macedonian. I do not know why somebody would say that he is Macedonian, if he was a Greek, it does not make any sense, except maybe if he had dual citizenship or ?!
ReplyDeleteThanks Google for adding Macedonian language in Google Translate despite all resistance! We appreciate that very much!
ReplyDeleteYour system for macedonian translation shucks! I put for translation the macedonian text: "ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΝΑΟΝ ΑΝΕΘΗΚΕΝ ΑΘΗΝΑΙΗ ΠΟΛΙΑΔΙ" and didn't give me anything!
ReplyDeleteCorrection?
ReplyDeleteJust look at the level of ignorance you have about Greek history and the answer is there for you..
Greece was never Greece you fool..
Greece was made of city states. Athens, Sparta, Macedonia, Thebes, Corinth ets ets ets..
We are not claiming to be Macedonians like you do.
Greeks have always been as much Macedonians as they are Athenians and Spartans and so forth..
Your reasoning is that of a 8 year old child, or of someone who has no absolute clue about ancient history whatsoever..
If alexander was Macedonian and an enemy of Greece,
HOW COME HE USED GREEK NAMES, BUILD GREEK CITIES, SPREAD HELLENISM
THROUGHOUT HIS EMPIRE.
SHOW ME ONE ANCIENT MACEDONIAN INSCRIPTION, JUST ONE!, NOT WRITTEN IN GREEK....
Honestly you guys in FYRoM are in serious need of a history lesson.
Either that, or you are complete fools..
THE HELLENIC LEAGUE.. CHECK THAT OUT ON GOOGLE...(YOUR NEW FRIEND),
ReplyDeleteAND YOU WILL SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES..
The League of Corinth, also sometimes referred to as Hellenic League (original name: Hellenes - 'The Greeks') was a federation of Greek states created by Philip II of Macedon during the winter of 338 BC/337 BC after the battle of Chaeronea, to facilitate his use of military forces in his war against Persia. The name 'League of Corinth' was coined by modern historians after the first council of the League in Corinth.
ReplyDeleteCAN YOU READ OR ARE YOU BLIND?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Corinth
Greece was never Greece you fool..
ReplyDeleteGreece was made of city states. Athens, Sparta, Macedonia, Thebes, Corinth ets ets ets..
Macedonia was not a city state, it was a kingdom, apart of greek city states.
If alexander was Macedonian and an enemy of Greece,
HOW COME HE USED GREEK NAMES, BUILD GREEK CITIES, SPREAD HELLENISM
THROUGHOUT HIS EMPIRE.
And how come he conquered every greek city state if he was a greek?
"Macedon" redirects here. For other uses, see Macedon (disambiguation) and Macedonia
ReplyDeleteΜακεδονία
Makedonía
Macedonia
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800s BC–146 BC →
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Location of Macedon
Capital Aigai until about 400 BC when moved by Archelaus to Pella
Language(s) Ancient Macedonian, later Attic/Koine Greek
Religion Ancient Greek religion
Government Monarchy
King
- 808 - 778 BC Karanus
- 359 - 336 BC Philip II of Macedon
- 336 - 323 BC Alexander the Great
- 221 - 168 BC Philip V of Macedon
Historical era Classical Antiquity
- Karanus establishes the Argead dynasty 800s BC
- Amyntas III unifies Macedon 382 BC
- Conquered by the Roman Republic in the Fourth Macedonian War 146 BC
Currency Greek drachma
Macedonia or Macedon (from Greek: Μακεδονία, Makedonía) was a kingdom in ancient Greece, centered in the northeastern part of the Greek peninsula.[1] The homeland of the ancient Macedonians, it was bordered by the kingdom of Epirus to the west, Paionia to the north, the region of Thrace to the east. and of Thessaly to the south. For a brief period, after the conquests of Alexander the Great, it became the most powerful state in the world, with borders including the whole of Greece and as far as India; at that time it inaugurated the Hellenistic period of history.
CAN YOU READ OR ARE YOU BLIND?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_(ancient_kingdom)
Wikipedia is written by Greeks. It is not a reliable source.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I remember there was harassment about the article of the region of Macedonia, again by the Greeks.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said on August 27, 2009 6:56 AM PDT:
ReplyDeleteWikipedia is written by Greeks. It is not a reliable source.
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Great argument.. Bravo...
How more stupid can you get...
There was a harassment, when FYRoMIans changed it.
ReplyDeleteLike they are trying to do now.
Re write history..
But you know what, The history of Greece is written in solid gold my friend, inscribed in every ancient stone from the lands of Macedon up to India...
Digital code you can try to change.. We will correct it again and again and again...
Letters inscribed in eternal stone, will always glance back at you and smile...
Macedonia is Greece...
So just take Slav Macedonian and we are ok..
I mean. we are giving you enough already, just say thank you and go...
Do not be rude!
ReplyDeleteREMEMBER: You will never be Macedonian! Never! And this country will never change its name, no matter what! You will give up sooner or later, cause we will never give up of our name MACEDONIA!
Slav Macedonia
ReplyDeleteYou go like crazy, and you have that name Tito gave you from 1944.
Imagine the Greeks, who have this implanted in their conciusness 3000 years...
Take SlavMacedonia and we are ok I say..
Do not be a kid.. Do not look the horse in the teeth if it is a gift..
Take Slav and go I said..
As for the stones, nowhere writes that Alexander the Macedonian and the Macedonians were Greeks, they are everywhere represented as conquerors of Greeks and little Greek city states.
ReplyDeleteLETS PLAY A GAME THEN...
ReplyDeleteI CHALLENGE YOU FIRST,
AND THEN ITS YOUR TURN.
HERE WE GO:
1: WRITE ME, THE NAME ALEXANDER THE GREAT, AS HE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN IT HIMSELF.
2:TELL ME THE NAME OF THE SISTER OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT, WRITTEN AS HE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN IT.
ANSWER THIS 2 AND THEN I WILL ANSWER TO YOU.
IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER, I WONT ANSWER BACK TO YOU EITHER.
TIP: You need Greek characters installed on your PC or go to a History book and check..
ReplyDeleteYou did not give me a proper answer, but we are getting there..
ReplyDeleteThe Geographical region of Macedonia, ok..
So Slav Macedonian is ok isn't it?
Use the language Alexander would have used please, not the Cyrilic or Latin characters...
I don`t have time for stupid games. Alphabet and language is not the same thing. You can write any language in any alphabet.
ReplyDelete1:How would Alexander spell his name?
ReplyDeleteSpell Thessaloniki in the way Alexander or Phillip of Macedon would have written it.
СОЛУН
ReplyDeleteOk, so you don't have time for games or cant you bear to see it written?
ReplyDeleteDo you deliberately avoid to see this:
Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας - Μέγας Ἀλέξανδρος
I accept your apology...
No go with Slav Macedonian and we are ok..
ΓΛΥΠ
ReplyDeleteΨαν υοθ ρεαδ τηισ? Στθπιδ!
ReplyDelete... and Google knows that! ;))
ReplyDeleteTranslate this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.liveinternet.ru/users/nataiv/post75483177/
„St. Irene, born Slav, lived in the second half of the I century and was the daughter of Licinius, ruler of the city Mageddona in Macedonia.“
Slav in 1st century?!
Dear all
ReplyDeleteI would like to use this opportunity to emphases several points:
1. How good is the quality of life in Balkans?
2. Do we have an excellent healthcare system?
3. Are we able to provide for our children good quality education?
4. How big is the level of corruption in our region?
5. How long the region is in transition?
6. Is this the poorest region in EU?
7. How well established are the minorities rights in this region?
8. How many people are smiling when they wake up in the morning?
9. How big is the rate of unemployed people?
10. How big is the pollution etc…
These are the issues which have to consider as a priorities.
I am pleased to say thanks to our regional leaders, bunch of idiots, who are taking care only for their political rating.
At the very end I would like to thank to our neighbors, Greeks and Bulgarians, for the affirmation of our small and beautiful state.
Balkanec
Поздрав Балканец!
ReplyDeleteA letter has been sent to Google's Mmanagement on the subject logging an official complaint regarding the decision to use the name "Macedonian" for its language translation services.
ReplyDeleteA technology Company / Business cannot make, nor influence at will international policy contrary to UN Resolutions, especially when it has international reach and operating licences. The official name of the country in question is FYROM, with no specific qualifier for ethnicity nor for language, other than a combination of Slavic, Albanian, Turkish, Roma, and Greek peoples, and a Bulgarian / Serbian dialect and the use of the cyrilic alphabet.
Google has been asked to change the name of the language in question to Slavic - FYROM, and await until the dispute is resolved regarding the name issue between Greece and FYROM as well as Bulgaria and Albania.
Eugene N. Borza, Macedonia Redux, pp253-260
ReplyDeleteThe Macedonian kingdom was absorbed into the roman empire , never to recover its independence.
During medievel and modern times, Macedonia was known as a balkan region inhabited by ethnic greeks,
Albanians, Vlachs, Serbs, Bulgarians, Jews and Turks.
Tito's imprimatur on a macedonian state was an attempt to counter traditional bulgarian influence in the
region of Macedonia.
Modern slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians,
cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the
ancient macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical slavic factions - mostly emigres in the United States,
Canada and Australia - even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity.
On the other hand, the Macedonians are a newly emergent people in search for a past to help legimitize their precarious
present as they attempt to establish their singular identity in a slavic world dominated by serbs and bulgarians.
In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the macedonians, who have had no history,
need one. They reside in a territory once part of a famous ancient kingdom which has borne the macedonian name as a
region ever since and was called "Macedonia" for nearly half a century as part of Yugoslavia. And they speak a language
now recognized by most linguists as a south slavic language.
silly FYROMski wrote
ReplyDelete"Correction: Ancient Macedonian kingdom, not Greek kingdom of Macedonia!It was never a Greek kingdom! If it was Greek, than would be “Kingdom of Greece“ not “Kingdom of Macedonia“. As simple as that. Macedonians conquered Greeks in ancient times, and we hate each other since than. But it is so strange that today Greeks are claiming to be Macedonians, since Macedonians were their biggest enemies in antiquity. Alexander the Great is actually Alexander the Macedonian. I do not know why somebody would say that he is Macedonian, if he was a Greek, it does not make any sense, except maybe if he had dual citizenship or ?!"
if u cared to open up any hisotry book you would read what the ancient historians, or the Macedonian kings regarded themselves(who knew what they were, way before someone blasted ur brains with crap):
ALEXANDER I, 479BC (Grandfather of Alexander the Great)
"For i Alexander myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and i would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery."
(HERODOTUS IX, 45, 2[Loeb])
"Tell your king (Xerxes), who sent you, how his Greek viceroy (ALEXANDER I) of Macedonia has received you hospitably."
(HERODOTUS V, 20, 4 [Loeb])
Alexander the Great said to his army -
"when they ask you why you fought you will answer...I was here this day in Gaugamela. For the freedom... and the glory of Greece...Zeus be with us.". Why did he say for "the glory of Greece"?
Alexander the Great : "For As Greeks we should not be slaves to barbarians."
(Callisthenes of Olynthus 1.15.1-4)
if Macedonians hated and conquered the Greeks (like all Greeks did to each other in the past) why did they create the PANHELLENIC LEAGUE? Why spread the Greek culture and LANGUAGE?
If u slavoFYROM clowns bother to read some history u will see that if Macedonians didnt conquer the Greeks in order to unite them, they simply wouldnt be Greeks ;)
Google can offer any versions they want. Our problem is not that FYROMians speak a different, a distinct language or some dialect what so ever.
ReplyDeleteGreece recognizes that FYROM have their own language. Greece's problem is the NAME of the language, which is misleading.
To whom it may concern,
ReplyDeleteGoogle has anounced the introduction of a new language described as "Macedonian", that is incorect. I'm Macedonian and my language is Greek-Ελληνικά, I take great offense that you are using my name to describe a Cyrilic language constructed in 1944 under Yugoslavia and spoken by the majority of the citizens of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (F.Y.R.O.M). The names of the country, ethnicity and language for F.Y.R.O.M are under negotiations led by the UN and fully supported by the U.S, E.U and N.A.T.O.
With respect to the negotiations we believe a name like "F.Y.R Macedonian" would be a fair solution for all sides
I await for your response.
Thank you
http://macedonian.com.au
@Anonymous on August 27, 2009 10:23 AM PDT:
ReplyDeletekeep waiting. you will be awaiting for all your life.
Did I mention how pathetic you all are?
ReplyDeleteWTF do you mean the Macedonian language has many enemies? How can a language have enemies? And why would you even need to mention something like that when posting about new translations? This isn't a political debate, so keep politics out of it.
ReplyDeleteBut if everyone here really wants to argue politics, let me say this. Whether or not Macedonia was or wasn't Slavic before the 6th century is pointless. The fact of the matter is, Slavic peoples migrated to the south, mixed with the native Macedonians, and created a new people. And this new people has the right to call itself whatever it wants and the Greeks have no say in that. They have no right demanding that other cultures change their name because Greece says so. The old Macedonia or Macedon, is gone, it died long ago. So lets stop arguing over history and face the modern day fact that Macedonians do exist, have their own culture, and will continue to exist for many centuries. "Macedonia" as we once knew it, is no longer Greek, but Slavic. The Slavs took over, and the Greeks just have to get use to that. There's 500 million Slavs worldwide and only 12 million Greeks, so if the Greeks really want to start a fight with Macedonia and it's Slav brothers, let them do so, but it will be a battle they will lose.
МАКЕДОНИЈА ЗАСЕКОГАШ! СМРТ НА ГРЦИЈА!
Well it looks like Greece fails and the superpower Google recognizes Macedonian as a language. Aha, too bad for Greece, they're losing the battle, as expected. You can only suppress a people for so long Greece, then those people start to gather allies and fight back!
ReplyDeleteThank you Google for adding Macedonian language support.
ReplyDeleteNow we, Macedonians, can enjoy your services in our own language even more.
LOVE FROM MACEDONIA !!
free tetovo
ReplyDeleteWay to go Way to go Google for te addittion of the Macedonian language
ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of Macedonians using Google and the services that you offer, including me. This is a great benefit for everybody cheers :)
ReplyDeleteThe Committee for the Macedonians in U.S.A.
ReplyDeletePublished in The Fort Wayne Daily News
Tuesday, August 19th, 1913
-- Macedonians of United States Pass Resolutions Condemning Recent Balkan Treaty --
“As the representative of the Macedonian government, and having the authority to submit to the Macedonian government and the parliament a problem, in the solution of which your government ought to take part, we, the Macedonians of the United States of America, in our demonstrations and meetings, organized by the Macedonian Revolutionary Organization in the United States of America, on the 16th day of August, 1913, adopted and submit to your government the following resolution-protest:
“Whereas, The Balkan-Turkish war was declared and fought in the name of the freedom of Macedonia and the Christians in Turkey of Europe, in which war we, the Macedonians, fought most vigorously and with our help Turkey was defeated;
“Whereas, The end of this Balkan-Turkish war was not the freedom of Macedonia, but most generous division of our country and people between Servia and Greece, and our nation was compelled to submit to the Servian and the Greek governments, a government more tyrannical than the Turkish government; and
“Whereas, The Servian and the Greek governments now kill our fathers and our brothers, despoil the virtue and honor of our sisters, mothers and wives, and molest our children, all of which inhuman acts aim at the entire destruction of our national existence in Macedonia, and
“Whereas, The present unjust division of our country was caused by the European diplomacy, and if the same exists in future there will always be internal revolutions and disturbances which will keep all the Balkan states in readiness for war and might throw all the European powers in disastrous clash;
“Whereas, The peace in the Balkans is only the freedom based on the principle: ‘ Macedonia for the Macedonians.’
“We, the Macedonians in the United States of America , with all the vigor in us, protest against the unjust division of Macedonia and the tyranny of the Servian and Greek governments in Macedonia ;
“We appeal to the European powers to declare the conference in Bucharest , Roumainia, between the representatives of the Balkan states unjust, and to demand autonomy of Macedonia ;
“We declare to all the nations of the world, that if the freedom of Macedonia is not granted soon, we will continue our struggle and fight for the freedom of our country, and we will all die or become free. We cry: ‘Give us freedom or give us death.’”
Here are some more references to Macedonians during 1800-century.
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THE ORIENTAL HERALD
GENERAL LITERATURE
VOL. X.
JULY TO SEPTEMBER 1826
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“..If you consent to the extermination of the Greeks, you must very speedily consent to the extermination of the Macedonians, the Bulgarians, the Servians, and the people of Monte Negro”
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HISTORY OF ALL NATIONS
UNIVERSAL HISTORY – EVERY NATION, ANCIENT AND MODERN
IS SEPARATELY GIVEN.
BY S.G GOODRICH
VOL. I.
1851
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CHAPTER CXCII.
A.D 1380 to 1453
“The Servians, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Bosnians, Wallachians, Hungarians, and others, combined their forces, and formed a great army.” (A.D 1387)
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THE ORIENTAL HERALD,
AND THE JOURNAL OF GENERAL LITERATURE
VOL. XXI
APRIL TO JUNE 1829.
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“..At the sound of the first Russian trumpet, the Greeks were not the only people whose hearts leaped with joy in the belief that they beheld their protectors. The Moldavians, the Wallachians, the Bulgarians, the Macedonians and Thessalians, Servians and Montenegrians, even the Arnauts and Bosnians, although the latter passed for Musulmans, participated in this feeling”
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CONSTANTINE – THE LAST EMPEROR OF THE GREEKS
THE CONQUEST OF THE CONSTANTINOPLE BY THE TURKS
(A.D 1453)
BY CHEDOMIL MIJATOVICH
LONDON – 1892
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“..They (Turks) have, besides, amongst them a great number of Christians, who are forced to serve – Greeks, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Albanians, Slavonians, Wallachians, Servians, and other subjects of the despots of that country. All these people detest the Turk, because he holds them in a severe subjection”
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THE AMERICAN EDITION of the NEW EDINBURGH ENCYCLOPEDIA.
CONDUCTED BY DAVID BREWSTER, L L D
NEW YORK – 1831
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“..Lazarus, the prince of Servia, who, being informed of their treatment, was so offended that he broke off his alliance with the Ottoman, and having formed a confederacy of the neighbouring tribes, appeared at the head of a mighty army, consisting of Bulgarians, Macedonians, Bosnians, Wallachians, Hungarians..”
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1.How many modern Greek families can trace their ethnic and family ancestry to the real ancient Greeks?
ReplyDelete2. How many NORTHERN greek families can trace their ethnic and family ancestry to the real ancient Greeks?
3. What happen to the 1-1,5 million christian Turk-speakers/citizens that moved from Turkey to Greece and northern Greece in 1920's as a result of the Lausanne agreement? Did they get a stamp on their forehead stating that they are now ethnically and family related to the real ancient Greeks?
4. Why was much of the rural population of Greece speaking Albanian by the time of the creation of modern Greek state in the 1830s?
5. Why did most of the population prior to independence (1821) not consider themselves as ethnic "Greeks" or "Hellenes", but rather Christian orthodox in a multi-racial society?
6. Why was your "Megali Idea" invented and pushed by a NON-ethnic Greek Prime Minister?
7. Why was the entire fleet at independence dominated by Albanians, and not ethnic Greeks?
8. Explain to me why so many different authors over the centuries describe Athens and Old Greece as being populated by Arvanite (Albanians), Vlach and other Christians groups?
9. Explain to me how these Romaoi, Slavs, Arvanite, Vlach, Pomack, Roma, Jews, Franks, Venetians and other Christians, along with the Georgians, Armenians, prosfyges from Asia Minor, the Ponti as well as the "Greek Muslims" are all one ethnic group - and at the same time - the descendants of both the ancient Greeks and the ancient Macedonians?
10. Where are the Slavonic groups that lived in the Southern Balkans (Greece) for the better part of a millennium. You know, the ones who called the Peloponesos, "Morea"?
11. Why do so many different sources over the centuries distinguish among Macedonians, Greeks and Bulgarians?
12. Show me instances of the Turkish and Pontic Christians expressing a Macedonian ethnic heritage prior to their transplantation in the Balkans. Show me historical documents indicating that Greece was transplanting "Macedonians" from Asia Minor and the Pontus during the 1920s.
13. Explain to me why Athens and Attica required massive repopulation of Albanians from the 1300s onward?
14. Why was there a need for cultural regeneration within modern "greece"? (According to your historians Macedonia and Epirus has been "greek" for 4000 years. How so?)
15. Show me where there was a large "greek" population in Macedonia for the last 400 years?
16. Tell me how it is that the first governor/president of modern "greece" was an Albanian who could not speak a word of "greek" and his vice president was an Albanian who could not speak a word of "greek"?
17. Why is it that the leading defenders of Greek liberty at independence were largely Non-ethnic Greek?
18. Why did western European historians (such as Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix) need tell modern Greeks (during 1800-century) that they were descendants of ancient Greeks, if Greeks already knew this?
19. Why were travelers from western Europe (late 1700-century or early 1800-century) disappointed to see modern "Greeks" lacking the physical resemblance, and the absence of classical manners from the ancient Greeks?
20. Why was the "Greek" Orthodox church (main unifying institution of the Greeks) at the time of independence totally opposed classical children names such as Pericles, Miltiades, Aristoteles, and instead promoted traditional Christian names for children?
21. Why did 1700-1800 century Greek intellectuals not consider ancient Macedonia to be part of the ancient “Greek” world, but rather as conquers of the Greeks?
22. Why did famous Venizelos (early 1900-century) say that a substantial portion of the Greek population uses ALBANIAN as its mother tongue, and is, consequently, in all probability, of Albanian origin?
23. Why did C.M Woodhouse (British servant during Greek independence) state that people (foreign visitors) loved the Greece of their dreams: the land, the language, the antiquities, but NOT the people?
24. Why did C.M Woodhouse state that foreign visitors to Greece (early 1800-century) had wished that the inhabitants of modern-day Greece be more like their ancestors from the antiquities?
ReplyDelete25. Why was the "Greek" identity (based on linguistics) ONLY concentrated to a small core of merchant class people after Greek independence?
26. Why did C.M Woodhouse say (early 1800-century) that Greece included considerably fewer than half of those who regarded themselves as Greeks by virtue of their language ,their religion, and (less plausibly) their race?
27. Where are all the Slavs, Vlachs, Albanians, christian turks that invaded, resettled, reoccupied modern day Greek lands from 550 AD to 1900-century?
28. Why was Athens (Greek capital) at the time of independence predominately populated by Albanians and Turkish settlements?
Google, thanks for adding Macedonian.
ReplyDeleteAlthough you do a great job, I think you should remove all the Balkan languages from your translating engine as the Balkan people are still dwelling in a stone age. As you can see, all it matters to them is who has the root access to Alexander and whose feudal lords killed more enemies. As a Macedonian I feel like being in a Monty Python sketch, needing to prove my national identity with some historical papyri to an angry Greek mob that thinks that Karatzaferis (a greek ultra-nationalist, with an ultra Turkish last name) is Aristotle's grand son, while my government sponsors zealots who oppose them in a similar fashion.
If Iran (or any other global naughty) fires a nuke at the Balkans, the rate of global stupidity would fall drastically.
I want Latin!
ReplyDeleteYes to Macedonian! But don't describe the language as having many enemies. Greece objects without foundation to the country's right to name itself, and Bulgarians just spew their own propaganda.
ReplyDeleteMacedonia is in Greece and has been for thousands of years. Macedonian is a Greek dialect.
ReplyDeleteSlavic Macedonia (FYROM) is north of Greece and their language is Slavic Macedonian.
Please correct this error that offends the millions of Greek Macedonians in Greece and diaspora!
wow
ReplyDeleteThis really complimentary role of google as a translator I really appreciate this stuffs.I want to learn french language and google supports it thats a great stuff.
ReplyDeletethere isn't an Azeri, Basque, Interlingua, Breton, Luxembourgian, Mongolian, Visayan, Papiamento, Quechua, Somali, Surinamese translation?
ReplyDeleteIt thinked that the translator doesn't translate the company name from Japanese "東京現像所" to Tokyo Laboratory and the Japanese language translation doesn't know half width versions of Katakana.
ReplyDelete@Tahin - Thanks to you bro :)
ReplyDeleteAccording to Wikipedia-
"With nearly 230 million total speakers, Bengali is one of the most spoken languages (ranking fifth or sixth) in the world."
Bengali has more significant contribution for the world language as the mother tongue day in 21st February comes from the bengali.
Maybe we can contribute to google translator in bengali if google gives a chance to us.... but I'm afraid google only allows to contribute better translation to the current 51 languages, there's no option to contribute to a new language :(
Great and waiting for all languages to help all users
ReplyDeleteMalayalam is not included in Google translation till now. Expecting Malayalam will be included soon.. Thank you..
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