tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post116717901223927426..comments2024-03-18T02:14:57.204-07:00Comments on Google Operating System: Make Google Services Opera-FriendlyAlex Chituhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-58585889895437413822012-01-22T21:34:03.663-08:002012-01-22T21:34:03.663-08:00Stop it! I was really worried Lisa! Do you like ja...Stop it! I was really worried Lisa! Do you like jazz?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-18215077357657504692011-05-04T13:22:39.683-07:002011-05-04T13:22:39.683-07:00Hello,
a very cool article was released today abo...Hello,<br /><br />a very cool article was released today about the problem with opera and google docs including three tips (the post is in german)<br /><br />http://www.solife.cc/blog/tipps-google-docs-opera-nutzen.html<br /><br />1. change something in the config<br />2. try different urls<br />3. search for alternatives<br /><br />regards,<br />lisaLisaLurmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-21518311014847227802011-04-25T13:31:35.956-07:002011-04-25T13:31:35.956-07:00So sad that I can't use google docs T_T
Do an...So sad that I can't use google docs T_T<br /><br />Do anyone know of a good alternative?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-91417729992540459712010-11-18T07:00:59.006-08:002010-11-18T07:00:59.006-08:00Here we are, 2010 creaking to an end, and Google D...Here we are, 2010 creaking to an end, and Google Docs STILL doesn't work properly with Opera after all these years.<br /><br />So, I've basically had to give up using Google Docs. End of story. A nice idea, Google, but your coders are evidently cretins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-14210807857404533982010-09-23T10:54:07.569-07:002010-09-23T10:54:07.569-07:00This is for coders: First, you claim Opera has a t...This is for coders: First, you claim Opera has a tiny marketshare. True, though its still 2.3%. Thats small, but not TINY. Then, you justify not supporting Opera compatability by citing this statistic. May I ask; What was Google Chrome's marketshare when it started out? How many coders endorsed Chrome from day one? You all know the answer. Fact is; Coders DONT LIKE Opera and they LIKE Google. Its really sad.<br /><br />Coders should reconsider and support what is undeniably the best browser. Maybe doing so they could actually provide Opera with the marketshare it should have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-4844635417279803642010-09-19T07:21:13.390-07:002010-09-19T07:21:13.390-07:00A page not working in Opera or any other standards...A page not working in Opera or any other standards-compliant browser is to blame on the web designer (if he even deserves that name), not the browser.<br /><br />Shame on you if you're one of those inapt coders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-6169788549939814402009-11-13T09:06:31.299-08:002009-11-13T09:06:31.299-08:00JavaScript is a pain. Look at any JavaScript on an...JavaScript is a pain. Look at any JavaScript on any webpage and your eyes will hurt.<br />Every modern browser supports DOM. The problem is, that a good computer scientist will never end up as webdeveloper. Webdevelopers are "the waste" of all computer scientist. You can see the result on every webpage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-53668018838496411542009-11-02T08:23:30.379-08:002009-11-02T08:23:30.379-08:00I agree with the other posters - Opera is very, ve...I agree with the other posters - Opera is very, very standards compliant. IE... is not. In fact, supporting IE 6, 7, and 8 means that you are supporting dozens of different browsers, depending on settings and patches. I don't care that Opera isn't supported; it only has a slim margin of the browser share, at least by any count out there. However, I'm hard pressed to figure out why Firefox works, and Opera doesn't. Unless you're using a bunch of very browser-specific commands - which is simply bad programming - the two browsers are very similar. Instead of giving FF and IE preferencial treatment, what would happen if Google wrote specificalyl for the standards-compliant browsers (Opera, FF, Konqueror, Chrome, etc.), and only put up the big ugly messages for IE? I doubt many people would stop using Google products, and I bet it would cause a lot of on-the-edge browser users to switch to something more stable... maybe even Chrome.<br /><br />Why spent countless hours trying to get a dozen versions of IE to all work, instead of making one dumbed-down version for IE, and one awesome version for everyone else?Armanhttp://www.i-arman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-35884364349308497282009-09-11T19:54:01.373-07:002009-09-11T19:54:01.373-07:00Thank you. I too, was tired of having to load and...Thank you. I too, was tired of having to load and run Firefox just for google docs.Joe Poniatowskihttp://www.1003concepts.com/jpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-59331121237115746912009-07-16T10:50:28.885-07:002009-07-16T10:50:28.885-07:00Decently-written code should work correctly on Ope...Decently-written code should work correctly on Opera with no problem. If it doesn't, tough.<br /><br />BS - sorry for the language. Well written code should work correctly in any standards compliant browser. It it doesn't, it isn't well written and the programmer sucks.<br /><br />I always wonder how programmers are able to write code that doesn't work on standards compatible browsers. I do coding for browsers myself, and I find it is harder to make it not work than to make it work. Besides, you usually use a library (which google also does), which should abstract all browser differences. The effort to test and maintain a well written library (like gwt pretends to be one) should be minimal compared to the effort to maintain the apps sitting on top of it. So IMO google not supporting opera actually trashes their do no evil slogan.<br /><br />As for 95% of traffic comming from corporate desktops using IE, may be, but of those 95% desktops maybe 95% also have FF (or Opera) installed. Should google decide to take standards compliance seriously, I bet they'd immediately see a surge in non-IE traffic.<br /><br />Another point: microsoft got were it is now not by playing to the rules of others. Seemingly google doesn't want to become a bigger and better company than microsoft (although it shouldn't be difficult at all to be a better company), since it plays by microsoft's rules, and will never become a bigger company if they work towards keeping microsoft the ruler of the desktop.<br /><br />And here's why I think google definitely works against opera: until a few days ago, Opera worked perfectly with google calendar. I use calendar a lot. Since yesterday or so I cannot edit the start and end times of an event anymore. I didn't upgrade Opera, only google "upgraded" the calendar. I tried it in FF, it's 100% identical to what was there before. Apparently, the only change that was introduced is a small bug that only occurs in Opera. I simply cannot imagine this being a coincidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-46311221520965307452009-07-11T15:20:09.408-07:002009-07-11T15:20:09.408-07:00Guess what? It's now July 2009 and Google stil...Guess what? It's now July 2009 and Google still doesn't work 100% with Opera! Google Docs has disappearing white space, and so does Gmail. Yeah, sure, I could use Firefox. I could also jam chopsticks in my ears; either way I'm gonna be caused some pain :)Nick Brienzanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-84648697331591222612009-05-10T12:35:00.000-07:002009-05-10T12:35:00.000-07:00Ah, the conformism of people using IE and Firefox....Ah, the conformism of people using IE and Firefox. Same as people using Hotmail for e-mail, or an iPod as their MP3 player, if y´ ask me.. :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-65181289660603149302009-03-07T12:21:00.000-08:002009-03-07T12:21:00.000-08:00Works great now !! - thank you!Works great now !! - thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-33866133286275336132008-09-24T00:21:00.000-07:002008-09-24T00:21:00.000-07:00Hey Thanks a bunch for this post i am a regular us...Hey Thanks a bunch for this post i am a regular user of opera and this solved a big problem for me.<BR/><BR/>The browser market just roves the theory that just because the whole world uses something doesnt make it better, guys who innovate on opera really get it.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07149906119165113619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-48404256841815276992008-08-22T18:41:00.000-07:002008-08-22T18:41:00.000-07:00Opera shares ~7% of a market.Opera shares ~7% of a market.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-12980209702915036802008-06-02T12:33:00.000-07:002008-06-02T12:33:00.000-07:00Market share?If opera, konqueror / safari user con...Market share?<BR/>If opera, konqueror / safari user continues to identify their browsers as IE or firefox then how opera's market share would increase? I find opera OPLC version is quite good.K M Nurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11895124158023108467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-56719227308505417922008-02-27T06:49:00.000-08:002008-02-27T06:49:00.000-08:00I almost switched to Firefox because of Google. Th...I almost switched to Firefox because of Google. <BR/><BR/>That until I found this <BR/>http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=448534<BR/><BR/>IE TAB in OPERA!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-50663270588413593092008-01-17T15:52:00.000-08:002008-01-17T15:52:00.000-08:00I think Opera is number one Brower. It is a petty ...I think Opera is number one Brower. It is a petty that bad programers make the user to go with IE just because they made errors in the code and not follow the real standard like Opera. Opera designer should make an option to be more flexible in the code to gain some market, then they can rule the browser world. Also, provide more support fixing the compatibility issues. Long live Opera.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-9243793331028231682008-01-10T19:19:00.000-08:002008-01-10T19:19:00.000-08:00Dummies parrot the phrase "market share" and yet d...Dummies parrot the phrase "market share" and yet do not get what they say.<BR/><BR/>No market exists for web browsers -- no buyers, sellers, informers, transporters.<BR/><BR/>Folks get web browsers bundled with their Internet-ready devices -- desktops, laptops, cell phones, tablets, Wiis.<BR/><BR/>Web page makers ought to make their pages to the W3C HTML/XHTML Specification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-65437389111279332092007-12-23T05:02:00.000-08:002007-12-23T05:02:00.000-08:00>Jaewoong said...>Try this. http://docs.google.com...>Jaewoong said...<BR/><BR/>>Try this. http://docs.google.com/?<BR/>>It works for me<BR/><BR/>Yep. Adding the question mark to the end of the URL works fine. Many thanks to Jaewoong and everybody else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-51200247807879001392007-12-20T05:49:00.000-08:002007-12-20T05:49:00.000-08:00Try this. http://docs.google.com/?It works for meTry this. http://docs.google.com/?<BR/>It works for meUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342958767977444325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-17139528452423323772007-12-20T01:29:00.000-08:002007-12-20T01:29:00.000-08:00The file is still there.The file is still <A HREF="http://files.myopera.com/xErath/files/fix-google-services.js" REL="nofollow">there</A>.Alex Chituhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-28578509023338368302007-12-20T01:24:00.000-08:002007-12-20T01:24:00.000-08:00could you please post MIRROR for fix-google-servic...could you please post MIRROR for fix-google-services javascript file? because nowhere on internet is possible to download it, link on Opera pages is DEAD and everybody is linking DEAD file, because I don't understand if it's so hard to do many mirrors for small fileAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-74894486241436303092007-11-23T04:04:00.000-08:002007-11-23T04:04:00.000-08:00Google seems to forget mobile devices.. Opera has ...Google seems to forget mobile devices.. Opera has a huge marketshare in the mobile-device market.. and what about Wii? I would surely like to use google docs with this Archos-unit..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-1438173212195413872007-10-30T06:09:00.000-07:002007-10-30T06:09:00.000-07:00If its not working on Opera, it means that its not...If its not working on Opera, it means that its not following standards strictly. Its really sad, that Google doesn't follow standards strictly.<BR/><BR/>But the truth is Google is a commercial company and it tries to reach more and more customers. So it doesn't matter allot if something does not work on Opera due to its market share.<BR/><BR/>What I think, we (as customers) should be more aware. Stop using products that do not follow standards. Respect those (like Opera) who follow strict standers and try to convince others to do the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com