tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post1406148434378428178..comments2024-03-18T02:14:57.204-07:00Comments on Google Operating System: Novice vs. Expert Google UsersAlex Chituhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-91569750182488189062011-06-28T01:12:09.202-07:002011-06-28T01:12:09.202-07:00A novice and an expert searcher can continue to im...A novice and an expert searcher can continue to improve their search skills by learning to search fields like the title field (intitle:) of the url field (inurl:) and limiting to a top level domain (site:gov, site:edu, etc.)? Guys don't presume too much on newbies. They want to learn. All of started that way.kollagen intensivhttp://agapeantiaging.com/kollagen-intensiv-reviewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-52227070858136276282008-07-30T00:57:00.000-07:002008-07-30T00:57:00.000-07:00Intéressant tout ça, mais Quid de CUIL ?Intéressant tout ça, mais Quid de CUIL ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-66826482302187020372007-07-03T14:54:00.000-07:002007-07-03T14:54:00.000-07:00OK, umbrella protects you from something, so don't...OK, umbrella protects you from something, so don't go where you need to have protection. Unless your of Itallian decent - protection automatic. So conclusion - "No Protection required in Seattle." So visit it, and then figure out your premise was wrong.<BR/><BR/>NOVICE QUERY: Why Seattle<BR/>EXPERT QUERY: Seahawks<BR/><BR/>Probably the same results!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-20212613801658733982007-07-02T19:27:00.000-07:002007-07-02T19:27:00.000-07:00Mac is right but I would expand his comments by ad...Mac is right but I would expand his comments by adding that a novice and an expert searcher can continue to improve their search skills by learning to search fields like the title field (intitle:) of the url field (inurl:) and limiting to a top level domain (site:gov, site:edu, etc.)Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06591792153761959893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-61967362313245769492007-07-02T11:47:00.000-07:002007-07-02T11:47:00.000-07:00Yes. Powerset, the natural language search engine ...Yes. Powerset, the natural language search engine that will launch a beta version in September, shows <A HREF="http://blog.powerset.com/query-of-the-week" REL="nofollow">some examples of queries</A> in its blog. Unfortunately, the results are restricted to Wikipedia pages.<BR/><BR/>Powerset says it understands the relation between words, so if you search for <A HREF="http://blog.powerset.com/2007/6/16/what-did-steve-jobs-say-about-the-ipod" REL="nofollow">[what did steve jobs say about the iPod?]</A>, Powerset "matches the structure and meaning of your query with the structure and meaning of every sentence and document in the index, and then returns those passages that truly match your intent". Powerset finds the pages "where Steve Jobs is saying, stating, telling, mentioning, claiming, announcing, etc. something about the iPod. The trick isn’t just knowing that <I>mentioning</I> and <I>saying</I> can mean the same thing, it's also knowing that in given sentence, Steve Jobs is doing the saying, and the thing he's saying something about is the iPod."Alex Chituhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-51934445268525495652007-07-02T02:03:00.000-07:002007-07-02T02:03:00.000-07:00I agree with mac, my dissertation was based upon f...I agree with mac, my dissertation was based upon formulating search strings and they do differ from one another. its like talking to a computer, you dont necessarily need to use the "stop words". these include the use of "and" "or" , etc. however if your searching to answer a question you may need the "what" or "why"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-4910715975140541342007-07-01T16:07:00.000-07:002007-07-01T16:07:00.000-07:00I think it's a lot more complex than just categori...I think it's a lot more complex than just categorizing users as <I>novice</I> or <I>expert</I>. There is such a wide array of levels (and human bizarreness / unpredictability) within even those two supposed camps that any effort put forth to predict user behavior by creating arbitrary labels as simple as <I>novice</I> and <I>expert</I> will certainly be fruitless.<BR/><BR/>One month "novice" to "expert"? Yeah right. I'd love to see how my parents formulate their search queries, or maybe even my 20 year old sister. They have all been using search engines for years now, and I can assure you that they would all prove Marissa Mayer wrong.<BR/><BR/>That said, the more users know, the better. And why should "expert" users have to pay for the "novice" users' collective ignorance, albeit in the form of a simplified and clunkier search experience? Since when should we cater to stubborn laypersons? Plus, I like being able to retrieve relevant information faster than a large portion of society.<BR/><BR/>We also cannot lose sight of the fact that even these supposed <I>novice</I> users usually receive excellent search results back from Google.<BR/><BR/>Finally, I do agree with the notion of a search engine being able to understand the relationships between words, phrases, and sentences if the end goal is improve the search results and is designed only with the so-called <I>expert</I> users in mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-60433169037402155362007-07-01T13:18:00.000-07:002007-07-01T13:18:00.000-07:00But what about when you can't formulate your query...But what about when you can't formulate your query as a question? And I agree that it's a lot shorter to type "lemma" or "define:lemma" than "What the heck is a lemma?" or even "What does lemma mean?"<BR/><BR/>I would say that an expert user is one who knows how to use advanced feature like minus, quotes, the define: operator, etc. whereas a novice just types a few words that they think might be related to what they're looking for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-76344605302572327732007-07-01T11:36:00.000-07:002007-07-01T11:36:00.000-07:00Novice: Information on LincolnExpert: information ...Novice: Information on Lincoln<BR/>Expert: information Lincoln -AbrahamDannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765427077149813658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-27633188845291407692007-07-01T10:49:00.000-07:002007-07-01T10:49:00.000-07:00I don't want to type a whole sentence into Google....I don't want to type a whole sentence into Google. The fewer words that get what I want, the better.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365770673757705455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-16267983156982673022007-07-01T10:16:00.000-07:002007-07-01T10:16:00.000-07:00I do agree though that the user should not have to...I do agree though that the user should not have to adjust to the search engine, but rather the opposite. The search engine should (at least try to) be smart enough to understand what the user means. Of course I know this is a very hard area of computing, but I'm sure whoever cracks this problem will have a very good shot of taking on Google.<BR/><BR/>I've been sort of following Powerset, the one company that seems to have the answer for this type of "novice" queries, and if Powerset delivers its promise of providing a good search engine that understands natural language query, then Google might be in for a good "fight".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-31048970627090104452007-07-01T07:29:00.000-07:002007-07-01T07:29:00.000-07:00I think these () are parentheses. And you should ...I think these () are parentheses. And you should use quotes ("") instead.<BR/><BR/>SteveSchwartzenheimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775727727452096982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-83340368642523493272007-07-01T04:36:00.000-07:002007-07-01T04:36:00.000-07:00I agree about the umbrella post. One more thing, ...I agree about the umbrella post. One more thing, if you want to search for a specific sentence or search for the key phrase in Google, use parentheses.<BR/><BR/>EX: "carry an umbrella" SeattleUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10528326801238087007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-29513435150077400442007-07-01T03:05:00.000-07:002007-07-01T03:05:00.000-07:00I do agree with all of this.But id like to bring u...I do agree with all of this.<BR/><BR/>But id like to bring up the one month from novice to expert?! I dont know about you but thats a whole bunch of bull.<BR/><BR/>and the:<BR/>NOVICE QUERY: Why doesn't anyone carry an umbrella in Seattle?<BR/>EXPERT QUERY: weather seattle washington<BR/><BR/>why wouldnt the expert use the word umbrella? Whom ever wrote this is still on the novice side lol, noob lol.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14736954195142021934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-78507033440135901942007-06-30T15:42:00.000-07:002007-06-30T15:42:00.000-07:00I agree completely with this. The future of search...I agree completely with this. The future of search is a search engine that understands sentence structure and paragraph context and perhaps document theme.<BR/><BR/>Tom<BR/><A HREF="http://www.seo9oneone.com" REL="nofollow">www.seo9oneone.com</A>Thomas Reitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15073980163717891885noreply@blogger.com