tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post1615360335136908059..comments2024-03-18T02:14:57.204-07:00Comments on Google Operating System: Google Stops Censoring Search Results in ChinaAlex Chituhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-47020436277769155502010-01-16T17:02:51.450-08:002010-01-16T17:02:51.450-08:00google aren't a very cosy company, they just h...google aren't a very cosy company, they just haven't been publicly busted. <br /><br />Their involvement withe the CIA through the keyhole project means that the CIA is one of the main shareholders in google.<br /><br />Just because you don't know it's evil doesn't mean it isn't.<br /><br />I'd suggest that any company has to make ethical choices and make compromises, there's no infallable "good" morality. Google are in the same camp, and the fact that there is little ethical debate about their commitments is to me a hallmark of 100% good propaganda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-90514344727053589322010-01-15T19:20:30.451-08:002010-01-15T19:20:30.451-08:00Google was founded by and is still largely led by ...Google was founded by and is still largely led by someone who does not have a good experience of totalitarian regimes: Sergey Brin was born and spent part of his childhood in the Soviet Union, and I don't think he is too happy about the idea of simply agreeing to whatever the Chinese Communist Party demands. Even though Google is a public corporation, it was careful to control how much influence its shareholders have, and I think that the leadership of the company still takes seriously the idea that they really don't want to be "evil." If you look at Brin's story, of the experience of his family, I think you will understand why Google is tasking this risk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-7598651405063471112010-01-14T22:32:06.134-08:002010-01-14T22:32:06.134-08:00thanksthanksmsh grouphttp://mshgroup.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-49469754269011393302010-01-14T21:24:16.290-08:002010-01-14T21:24:16.290-08:00If google stops censoring search results in china ...If google stops censoring search results in china can they stop phishing scams or malware placed on the users' computers?navyahttp://gissbl.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-2768855331032789952010-01-14T13:11:38.051-08:002010-01-14T13:11:38.051-08:00Promising development. I wonder how long this wil...Promising development. I wonder how long this will stay: <br /><br />http://www.flickr.com/photos/pamhule/3780170511/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-88542480749600824722010-01-14T08:36:16.050-08:002010-01-14T08:36:16.050-08:00Well, it now appears that the censorship is back. ...Well, it now appears that the censorship is back. Previously, I didn't get the message at the bottom of the screen saying some images may have been omitted (after autotranslation), but now I do -- and the pictures are much cheerier.Mike Sullivanhttp://www.camsul.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-59709483672723156332010-01-14T07:03:09.824-08:002010-01-14T07:03:09.824-08:00From a posting on Dave Farber's Interesting Pe...From a posting on Dave Farber's Interesting People listserve, it appears Google China has actually stopped censoring to one or another extent. A search for Tiananmen massacre on images.google.cn shows pictures actually relating to the Tiananmen massacre, at least when accessed from the US. <br /><br />The .cn TLD doesn't mean that the server is in China, of course, and I would assume that it is not located there. Presumably, when that page is accessed from within the Great Firewall, either the links are blocked or the page itself is blocked.<br /><br />If Google is actually hosting and serving those images from a server in China, it would be a very interesting development.Mike Sullivanhttp://www.camsul.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-87797657116608345892010-01-14T03:20:32.484-08:002010-01-14T03:20:32.484-08:00About time.About time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-27832620682418221702010-01-13T18:40:11.667-08:002010-01-13T18:40:11.667-08:00You are claiming that Google has altruistic motive...You are claiming that Google has altruistic motives for this move, I don't buy it. It is money, as usual. We will see soon who is correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-26000739786494771442010-01-13T16:32:04.672-08:002010-01-13T16:32:04.672-08:00I Agree wit "Ola" im sure their not the ...I Agree wit "Ola" im sure their not the only onesFortheloveofdenim.comhttp://fortheloveofdenim.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-72163047346308562082010-01-13T15:29:50.885-08:002010-01-13T15:29:50.885-08:00First, I am sure China is not the Only country/par...First, I am sure China is not the Only country/party to employ people to hack the net for information. Any country with a major army is obliged to search for threats in the most efficient ways. Different countries considers different 'things' a threat to the state.<br /><br />Second, I think Google is also afraid their biggest secrets can be stolen, and If that happens the state would not support them. <br />Now some states believe other big states reguarly do this to support their own domestic companies. I think you can see what I am implying. <br /><br />Third, to actively trying to sabotage the operation is more serious. If it is done Company to Company, it can be fought in court. If it's done between a Company an a State it more complicated. <br />In the Industrial era destruction of products property was serious. Now, in the Service era the destruction of time - will be - as serious. <br /><br />Either way, it's an economic loss. <br /><br />If Google pulls out, someone else will take the same risk. Most likely a domestic (Chineese) company or a Google competitor.Olanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-22084084075590746522010-01-13T14:24:41.667-08:002010-01-13T14:24:41.667-08:00Maybe I missed the point in the article...but, how...Maybe I missed the point in the article...but, how does discontinuing the censoring of search results and GMail being hacked by the Chinese have anything to do with each other? Maybe it's best that I just stay confused and not worry about China...at least until they nuke the USA to spite Google.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15457923352034378962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-83215377221410048262010-01-13T12:30:40.709-08:002010-01-13T12:30:40.709-08:00Several reasons for Google drawing a line in the s...Several reasons for Google drawing a line in the sand - none related to failing to grab more market share. They already acknowledged that their last quarter was their best so far... <br /><br />The attack focused on gmail accounts of human right activists.<br /><br />Some aspect of the Chinese government was behind these attacks or at least associated with them. <br /><br />This was a direct attack against their source code. They said that intellectual property was stolen.<br /><br />The continued increasing of censorship is getting worse, not better - as they had hoped it would more than 4 yrs ago.<br /><br />Google's push toward the cloud (gmail, docs) and its benefits is called into question with these types of incidents.<br /><br />At some point, the moral motives reach a tipping point and can no longer be ignored, regardless of market size and potential.quenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-66893864116884831952010-01-13T09:47:05.710-08:002010-01-13T09:47:05.710-08:00I wanna know too, what exactly is "not very c...I wanna know too, what exactly is "not very convincing" to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-86513582663309632192010-01-13T08:26:01.923-08:002010-01-13T08:26:01.923-08:00censoring is epic fail. i'm glad they changed...censoring is epic fail. i'm glad they changed their policy, regardless of the hackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-83612822717293947962010-01-13T08:16:18.903-08:002010-01-13T08:16:18.903-08:00Your article hints at disappointment with Google f...Your article hints at disappointment with Google for not staying the course. While Google may have altruistic motives, they also have profit-centric motives. The latter allows them to indulge in the former. Furthermore, Google's business model likely does not not include reforming Governments. In my opinion, when Google entered the Chinese market, they did so first because they recognized a huge business opportunity. While they may truly deserve credit for being motivated by a desire to "better the world", recent incidents led them to conclude that ongoing compromise and foreseeable capitulation to the restrictions of a totalitarian government would not serve either of their purposes. <br />I say, hats off to Google policy and decision makers for the effort (both business and humanitarian), and lets hope you made the correct choice.alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14147756271609849680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-9368825865262736922010-01-13T07:18:14.642-08:002010-01-13T07:18:14.642-08:00Are they (not) saying that the Chinese government ...Are they (not) saying that the Chinese government is behind the attacks and therefore Google will stop kowtowing to them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-35985606503236223082010-01-13T06:51:40.021-08:002010-01-13T06:51:40.021-08:00See http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/01/googl...See http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/01/google-hack-attack/ for another possible explanation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-40938636571885968842010-01-13T06:40:51.543-08:002010-01-13T06:40:51.543-08:00"failing to offer a service to a fifth of the..."failing to offer a service to a fifth of the world's population seemed to be a worse idea." Since the government ruling that population is behind most of the hacking that comes out of the country, perhaps Google has a point, no, a right, to protect their resources from continuous pillaging.<br /><br />Perhaps you should call a spade a spade and let's see some accountability for the continued cyber-terrorism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-86470374227373819502010-01-13T04:59:05.377-08:002010-01-13T04:59:05.377-08:00What exactly is "not very convincing" to...What exactly is "not very convincing" to you ? <br />I can agree that the link between the hacking and the censoring is tenuous at best. But you should call it out if that's what made you write the phrase.bahbarnoreply@blogger.com