tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post1991269176261604164..comments2024-03-18T02:14:57.204-07:00Comments on Google Operating System: Gmail's Philosophy TodayAlex Chituhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-81238896295526624962011-03-25T12:53:37.859-07:002011-03-25T12:53:37.859-07:00I just read what Anonymous wrote on March 8, 2007 ...I just read what Anonymous wrote on March 8, 2007 5:59 AM and I'm STILL LMAO!! The WHOLE post is stupid but the real belly buster was "this is why Microsoft's desktop software always seems so beautiful." Still cracking up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-61654416984651200952009-08-10T11:09:38.757-07:002009-08-10T11:09:38.757-07:00Sort by sender
from:word@m-w.com label:All
It is p...Sort by sender<br />from:word@m-w.com label:All<br />It is pretty easy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-49826244803981669902009-05-09T20:04:00.000-07:002009-05-09T20:04:00.000-07:00Dumb Gmail - cant even sort by senders. Have to fi...Dumb Gmail - cant even sort by senders. Have to first dig through and find a sender and find email from them. Just a dumb interface.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-83925936587122538252009-04-29T05:40:00.000-07:002009-04-29T05:40:00.000-07:00log in to your gmail account, go to:
http://mail.g...log in to your gmail account, go to:<br />http://mail.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=suggestions.cs<br /><br />click on "suggest" next to Sort messages by size, date, sender, etc.<br /><br />if they receive enough suggestions, they will probably implement it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-37607101693624484232009-04-17T17:58:00.000-07:002009-04-17T17:58:00.000-07:00To me this a clear case of gmail being over-engine...To me this a clear case of gmail being over-engineered by software designers who couldn't find a better way to spend their time. The motivation is simple, to keep themselves being employed.<br /><br />Put yourself in the shoes of those engineers/analysts for gmail: the program is already working fine, but what should we do for the next quarter to justify being employed here? the more honest answer would be: the product is already good enough and should be moved into maintenance mode, with reduced staff headcounts, maybe 2/3 of the existing staff must find other areas of work or leave the company. Of course this choice is not desirable for them for many obvious reasons. So they made the "natural" decison to keep "improving" it by throwing in new features.<br /><br />But are their managers so stupid as not to be able to see thru this? No, but their managers need to justify being employed as well, so why not play along?Williamhttp://spaces.msn.com/williamwellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-61104400067716968302009-04-06T15:47:00.000-07:002009-04-06T15:47:00.000-07:00Searching is more efficient than sorting? How can ...Searching is more efficient than sorting? How can you search on stuff when you don't know what to search for? How does efficiency work in this case? For example, when you want to remove all unwanted threads in gmail but don't know what to search for. In Outlook you just sort by subject or "from address" and delete as you go. In gmail, there is no sort! Sorting does not complicate things, it simplifies things. I use it for its other features. If my email address wasn't so widely known by friends, family and associates, I would switch to Yahoo. This is exactly what Derek is talking about.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14039736383185319763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-48705040293837412372009-03-29T01:05:00.000-07:002009-03-29T01:05:00.000-07:00The folks who say the search and label features so...The folks who say the search and label features somehow replace sorting are so absurd that it goes beyond a vested interest, i.e. owning stock. It's almost like their entire being is invested in the product or company. What is it with technoheads, whether they be Apple freaks or Google freaks? Is this some kind of religion, or is it a piece of goddamn software we use, supposedly, to make life easier? If you want religion go to church. Leave it out of a discussion on how to improve an e-mail system. WEIRD!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-79722899240391865882009-03-18T03:47:00.000-07:002009-03-18T03:47:00.000-07:00I'm also horrible missing SORTING BY COLUMNS in my...I'm also horrible missing SORTING BY COLUMNS in my gmail account. Sometimes I have up to 5000 messages in Spam box and between them there are about 2 or 3 required and quite important messages, which are possibble to be found by chance or about one hour of stupid work checking all the unsorted subjects. <BR/><BR/>Please, make a column sorting for us and we will praise the Gmail everywhere! :o)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-55923238132964521962009-02-28T12:31:00.000-08:002009-02-28T12:31:00.000-08:00This is crazy. Of course Gmail should have a sort ...This is crazy. Of course Gmail should have a sort by sender option. If you don't need the feature, don't use it. This is the only thing that makes gmail horrible for me.. the inability to sort by column. That seems simple enough for a company like Google to manage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-48091438144855218982009-02-05T09:53:00.000-08:002009-02-05T09:53:00.000-08:00I've been using Outlook for 10 years, and for what...I've been using Outlook for 10 years, and for whatever reason, I got used to sorting my email by date with the newest messages at the bottom. This way, the oldest messages are always at the top. It keeps me aware of stuff I haven't answered in a while. <BR/><BR/>Google sorts with the newest at the top, and it drives me crazy. It's unbelievable that something so simple as sorting by date is missing. I don't want to search by date -- I just want my default view to be the one I'm used to.Warren Benedettohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07685189967220234702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-72335546932030367292009-01-20T14:41:00.000-08:002009-01-20T14:41:00.000-08:00It is a very common, understandable feature, and i...It is a very common, understandable feature, and if the most poplular mail programs use it, why not?Chef Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14322903861425109746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-56898281090839818262008-12-22T09:32:00.000-08:002008-12-22T09:32:00.000-08:00People need to differentiate the difference betwee...People need to differentiate the difference between filtering (aka: searching) and sorting, they are two different actions with different purposes. Even if they don't add sort columns, at least add a "sort:sender" advanced search option for the power users. It's so frustrating finding mass groups of emails that I can delete.Derek Gathrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00792174208910415386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-81104751563441234972008-11-12T12:39:00.000-08:002008-11-12T12:39:00.000-08:00I don't understand why it has to be a contest betw...I don't understand why it has to be a contest between searching and sorting. They are NOT substitutes. Searching will never replace sorting. There is no reason we can't have both.Vrathmathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12278983301358354391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-30480433305448113602008-08-28T13:01:00.000-07:002008-08-28T13:01:00.000-07:00Well I agree, it's sorely missing, but you can acc...Well I agree, it's sorely missing, but you can accomplish sorting in a roundabout way. You access Gmail using IMAP in Outlook and you can sort by anything (as expected). I use this for mass deletes as someone indicated in their response above. However, it still is a big shortcoming of the web interface.Gautam Desaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09692746158294052218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-1916111654982391742008-05-30T19:54:00.000-07:002008-05-30T19:54:00.000-07:00me, I want to sort by subject - you can't set up u...me, I want to sort by subject - you can't set up useful spam filters without being able to tell what subjects are used over and over, which would be a heck of a lot easier if I could order them alphabetically. Using the search feature I'm stuck with doing it a word at a time, an email at a time. This isn't a feature; this is a bug.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05210881169777330253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-58924291560131563122008-04-09T13:43:00.000-07:002008-04-09T13:43:00.000-07:00I *want* to use gmail as my primary tool for email...I *want* to use gmail as my primary tool for email, but the lack of sorting by sender makes it a non-starter. Although the spam filter seems good, it still produces false positives. Since I have to manually scroll through all the spam (I get hundreds a day), sorting by sender in the spam filter is a lifesaver.<BR/><BR/>All of the goofy suggestions for searching for a sender or adding things to address books won't work. And all of you "keep it simple" tyrants really get me - so we can have "stars" and filters and colors and labels and chat, but <B>Whoa Nelly!</B> sorting is going too far! It's a core feature in any application that has columns!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16766919376171006948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-52535472584467158462008-04-02T07:34:00.000-07:002008-04-02T07:34:00.000-07:00yea wtf? Outlook does it by pressing "sender" I ...yea wtf? Outlook does it by pressing "sender" <BR/>I wouldn't think it'd be that hard to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-28213269461717266672008-03-28T05:05:00.000-07:002008-03-28T05:05:00.000-07:00When doing weekly, monthly or yearly clean ups of ...When doing weekly, monthly or yearly clean ups of email inboxes, SORTING is an *invaluable* tool. I am faced with that task right now. My 2 yahoo accounts, no problem,easy peasy. My Gmail account...a total mess! And going to take me much much longer. As for searching vs. sorting, they are NOT even CLOSE to being the same thing! I´m sure I have emails from people/orgs I don´t even know about, let alone knowing to search for them. Which is why I would like to delete them all in one fell swoop. Give customers more flexibility: ADD SORTING TO THE OPTIONS!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-60102844991612824382008-02-07T19:59:00.000-08:002008-02-07T19:59:00.000-08:00Here's another vote for sorting by sender. After ...Here's another vote for sorting by sender. After all, Gmail automatically sorts by date; why not the "sender" parameter? Sure I could sit all day and click on each of my contacts in my Contacts list, seeing everything they sent me but that is absurd. Like others have said on here, I get a lot of emails from the same entities but they are not in my Contacts list (and I don't want them there) so they're not searchable that way. I need to sort by sender because that gives me a broader view (which seems to be part of Google's philosophy) and I can send a consolidated reply to a sender addressing the various subjects they've emailed me about. Or delete more of their emails more quickly. And as for those who say I should just read and sort them through Outlook, Thunderbird or some other email program - what if I'm away from my home computer and want to do some sender sorting?<BR/><BR/>As for "sour grapes," I don't see anybody complaining because Google is successful; we're simply providing feedback. Companies need to hear feedback from customers who want different things to determine how and if to adjust their product. Honestly, I don't understand why somebody would join a discussion about the frustrations in order to dismiss those frustrations. I have to seriously ponder the possibility that some of the Gmail apologists and advocates in this discussion work for or have an interest in (stock perhaps?) Google Inc.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11871140064275497467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-71174002731171463112008-01-04T13:01:00.000-08:002008-01-04T13:01:00.000-08:00I have had Gmail for 2 years now, the only reason ...I have had Gmail for 2 years now, the only reason I do not use it "I CANNOT SORT BY SENDER" - my email I should be able to do what I please with it, There needs to BIG DAMN BUTTON ON THE FRONT WHICH SAYS SORT BY SENDER...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-56207612559922270732007-12-15T23:48:00.000-08:002007-12-15T23:48:00.000-08:00Hey u can easily sort messages in gmail. Connect o...Hey u can easily sort messages in gmail. Connect outlook to gmail using IMAP. Please not IMAP and do not connect using POP. U ccan sort messages in Outlook by anything u want. Ex - U can sort messages in Outlook based on size and delete the big ones. They get automatically deleted from your inbox.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-65458225518508527582007-12-13T08:19:00.000-08:002007-12-13T08:19:00.000-08:00The lack of ability to sort by name/size/etc frust...The lack of ability to sort by name/size/etc frustrates me.<BR/><BR/>I wish Google with listen.<BR/><BR/>EVERYONE ELSE HAS THE SORT FEATURE, WHY NOT GMAIL?!?!?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-41101045573412032952007-11-26T20:00:00.000-08:002007-11-26T20:00:00.000-08:00To sort or not to sort (how to sort, etc.) - that ...To sort or not to sort (how to sort, etc.) - that is one of the hot topics here. The real issue is simply the fact that you just cannot please all of the people all of the time.<BR/><BR/>And why must we read another story of sour grapes because a company is successful and is making money. I say "good for you". I'm glad Google is making money. That is why they call it business. Don't we want the Internet companies whose products we use to be successful? If they weren't then I don't have to tell you where we would all be....grab your remotes folks....it's time for another episode of "If Only We Had the Internet".<BR/><BR/>Personally, I think gMail is great and I use Google so often that I have it set as one of my home pages (I use Firefox).Betsy's Blogarenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10459035079050936938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-55919555497127274472007-09-25T13:18:00.000-07:002007-09-25T13:18:00.000-07:00As denis said, you can do some fancy searches. Af...As denis said, you can do some fancy searches. After poking around, I found the "Advanced Search" help information here:<BR/><A HREF="http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=7190" REL="nofollow">Google Advanced Search</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-87441592041903393462007-07-09T07:20:00.000-07:002007-07-09T07:20:00.000-07:00I need the choice. Conversations are nice, but sin...I need the choice. Conversations are nice, but since a conversation may go of topic, I want the ability to sort and thus search a message.<BR/>Tow major drawbacks for the conversation-dogma:<BR/><BR/>No sequential view of messages for a topic (read: label).<BR/><BR/>When a conversation goes off topic I'm forced to apply a new label to the entire conversation instead of the track starting with a particular message.<BR/><BR/>So I started using gmail as tunnel and pop my messages (which defeats the adverts Google is paid for)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com