tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post5651020470824917293..comments2024-03-18T02:14:57.204-07:00Comments on Google Operating System: Google CloudboardAlex Chituhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-5508921263636667832010-02-17T08:21:33.947-08:002010-02-17T08:21:33.947-08:00@anonymous yeah, it surprised me too that Google S...@anonymous yeah, it surprised me too that Google Spreadsheets = Trix. Apparently Google acquired it or something (go figure!) and just changed the name.Itamarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02876071301140590486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-31798446412557908882009-10-13T09:57:07.264-07:002009-10-13T09:57:07.264-07:00I'm more shocked at the fact Google Spreadshee...I'm more shocked at the fact Google Spreadsheets is called Trix...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-63505807187189306042009-10-09T13:11:33.510-07:002009-10-09T13:11:33.510-07:00(continued....) It's the combination of Google...(continued....) It's the combination of Google Wave-Voice-Apps that provides the core applications needed to challenge Microsoft's attempt to move the legacy productivity environment to a proprietary MS-Web center. But Google also has to provision interoperable productivity layers that enable rich inter application connectivity. <br /><br />Microsoft 2010 has a full alignment of proprietary MS_Web ready formats, protocols and interfaces wrapped in the .NET-WPF framework. They have the advantage of being in position to migrate and transition to this MS-Web a near 100% monopoly of legacy business systems bound to the MSOffice Productivity Environment. The entire MSOffice Productivity Environment itself has undergone extensive re-purposing to integrate into the Exchange/SharePoint/SQL Server juggernaut. The transition will be costly, but not as disruptive as trying to move these business systems to the Open Web. Or so Microsoft hopes.<br /><br />I believe that Google can succeed in capturing much of the monopolist's legacy of client side business systems. But to do so they need to re-purpose the MSOffice Productivity Environment also, but to the Open Web. For businesses the cost of disruption far outweighs the cost of technology and systems re-engineering. <br /><br />But think about the internal mechanisms that Google must have in place before they can begin to challenge Microsoft's attempt to move the legacy Productivity Environment? Cloudbook is just the tip of the iceberg.<br /><br />At the end of the day though, i really think the Open Web convergence of communications and content exemplified by the combination of Wave and Voice will trump the MS-Web desktop to server advantages. And not just because the technology makes possible a productivity jump far beyond the 1992 contact manager boost. There is an underlying issue for Microsoft that they've refused to resolve, and has become increasingly important to end users; the sovereignty of information systems and ownership of content.<br /><br />The thing is that Microsoft applications are designed to "own" the content, data and communications fundamental to an interactive digital process or system. It's not just the end users information that gets bound to Microsoft applications and platform ecosystems. It's their business processes and systems bindings that eliminate competitive choices across the entire spectrum of computer services. <br /><br />The Open Web promises end users a sovereignty of systems and uncompromised ownership of information. The essence of this promise however is in the separation of applications and platform components from information. That means open standards and interoperable implementation models. It also means Google can not do this alone. Apple, Cisco, Yahoo, SalesForce.com, Oracle, Apache, Mozilla, Opera, Nokia, Red Hat and Ubuntu need to quit the squabbling, grab an oar, and start pulling in the same direction. HTML5, Wave, Voice and WebKit matter.<br /><br />~ge~Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10645842258906731036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-20739410453444409832009-10-09T13:11:04.058-07:002009-10-09T13:11:04.058-07:001992? That's exactly right. In 1992 Microsof...1992? That's exactly right. In 1992 Microsoft's Windows for WorkGroups began to take off, with many inter application messaging, data binding and exchange features. DDE became OLE. Copy/Paste took rich capabilities of application specific formatting. The Microsoft Office editors moved to the center of an emerging Microsoft Productivity Platform/Environment with ecosystem bound features such as merging data from one application source into the documents of another. OLE enabled the creation of rich compound documents. A new highly "interactive" environment replaced the "static" interfaces of the past. This too was directly reflected in the kinds of interactive workgroup-workflow rich documents that came to dominate client/server business processes and systems. These business processes and systems in turn became infinitely entangled and bound to the Microsoft Productivity Environment. A monopoly was born. And Microsoft owned the platform.<br /><br />Today the Web has become the platform where a new unified productivity environment is emerging. All of the elements of that 1992 Productivity Environment are finding a Web for Workgroups expression, with Google providing more than it's fare share of components, core applications and inter application services. <br /><br />One of the interesting things that happened in 1992 was that as the inter applications services and components evolved, contact/project/pim management applications moved into the center of the productivity environments. MSOffice editors were pushed aside, as the convergence of communications, content, scheduling, contact and project management became the "point of assembly" for business processes. For example, a merged document might begin in MSWord with formatted content and inserted merge fields drawing on both contact management databases and divisional transaction processing databases. The important point however is that the contact management applications took hold of the center. Which is why Microsoft had to introduce OutLook.<br /><br />On the Web, this productivity history is repeating itself. But it's on a much grander scale. There are two contenders for this emerging Web Productivity Platform/Environment; Microsoft with it's 2010 array, and Google with it's Wave, Voice and Apps core. (.... continued)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10645842258906731036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-55827514926961935972009-10-08T13:49:25.601-07:002009-10-08T13:49:25.601-07:00Wow, copy and paste. Welcome to 1992.Wow, copy and paste. Welcome to 1992.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-89781002050583259722009-10-08T01:55:55.213-07:002009-10-08T01:55:55.213-07:00Finally it will be used in Google Wave as well as ...Finally it will be used in Google Wave as well as Gogole OS!WDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-833124208555363152009-10-08T01:11:05.672-07:002009-10-08T01:11:05.672-07:00Can't wait for a try!!!Can't wait for a try!!!ranahttp://ranacseruet.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-35527786512386051762009-10-07T21:58:45.198-07:002009-10-07T21:58:45.198-07:00Wanna see it available soon!Wanna see it available soon!samnanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05048964240052734132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-20537305240891111902009-10-07T19:01:13.899-07:002009-10-07T19:01:13.899-07:00BRING BACK GOOGLE NOTEBOOK!!BRING BACK GOOGLE NOTEBOOK!!Ethanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08327283239783600642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-49381319933575213732009-10-07T14:17:31.790-07:002009-10-07T14:17:31.790-07:00KISS: Bring back Notebook, slightly enhanced.KISS: Bring back Notebook, slightly enhanced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-79687822002144694642009-10-07T12:26:41.560-07:002009-10-07T12:26:41.560-07:00finally, I waited for this!finally, I waited for this!Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12157341586687026200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-48397803499690241872009-10-07T04:21:25.829-07:002009-10-07T04:21:25.829-07:00This sounds a good idea, so far as it goes.
If th...This sounds a good idea, so far as it goes.<br /><br />If they wanted to make a really useful, I would like to see the following options:<br /><br />* When copying from one page that contains a form to another, populate the second form with the corresponding data items from the first.<br />* When copying from a form to a table (e.g. a spreadsheet), use the field names as column headings in the first row, and place the data values in the second row (essentially a database with only one data row).<br />* When copying from a table to a form, reverse the process described above.<br /><br />For a form with, say, eight fields these conversions would reduce the effort of populating a form with data you already have by a factor of eight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-74519087718425504842009-10-07T03:19:57.094-07:002009-10-07T03:19:57.094-07:00Good. I had to export a google spreadsheet into ht...Good. I had to export a google spreadsheet into html and then copy and paste it into a Google doc. It was a bit on the messy side. I look forward to this ability.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666227911449741129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-37324775814715773812009-10-07T00:46:54.145-07:002009-10-07T00:46:54.145-07:00Ah, so that's what that was. I saw icons like...Ah, so that's what that was. I saw icons like that in my Gmail page a few weeks ago but couldn't figure out what they were or did. They disappeared, but not before I got a screen shot. :)bonderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05541346538127318048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-60141375644863522982009-10-06T21:20:36.034-07:002009-10-06T21:20:36.034-07:00@DallasMay - this is implemented in Google Spreads...@DallasMay - this is implemented in Google Spreadsheets, just not exactly like Excel. See http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=98757Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-5142128811899842302009-10-06T21:11:31.127-07:002009-10-06T21:11:31.127-07:00still use notebookstill use notebookragleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15620282444643941550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-68940300668038918342009-10-06T18:05:41.849-07:002009-10-06T18:05:41.849-07:00Without any Google Cloud just copy any web page an...Without any Google Cloud just copy any web page and paste it into Google Docs. It's amazing ! <br /><br />If you do that with Microsoft Office it's a mess. <br /><br />Anyway don't forget to speak about your source ;-)Guy Deridethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307906352903917354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-53653280745309994912009-10-06T18:01:54.654-07:002009-10-06T18:01:54.654-07:00I'm just waiting for Google to finally get the...I'm just waiting for Google to finally get their Spreadsheet App to be able to refer to cells in different files. This seems pretty obvious, and I don't understand why it isn't implemented yet.DallasMaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-3174704740773267872009-10-06T16:56:39.782-07:002009-10-06T16:56:39.782-07:00I could use that for Gmail as well. Pasting a Goo...I could use that for Gmail as well. Pasting a Google Spreadsheet array into Gmail creates a formatting disaster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-67344857455037049312009-10-06T16:54:23.946-07:002009-10-06T16:54:23.946-07:00I was about to ask for a comparison to Google Note...I was about to ask for a comparison to Google Notebook, which I did use heavily at one point, but then reloaded my system and never reinstalled the browser add-onson_of_malcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566675266279647829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-62563392458441905192009-10-06T15:18:55.953-07:002009-10-06T15:18:55.953-07:00Nice. Something everyone will use.Nice. Something everyone will use.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com