tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post2778808805676361007..comments2024-03-18T02:14:57.204-07:00Comments on Google Operating System: If Google Results Aren't Helpful, Ask on Google+Alex Chituhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-73324014225576859032012-02-09T01:15:30.101-08:002012-02-09T01:15:30.101-08:00I think there would be no that much advantage with...I think there would be no that much advantage with Google+ to search for our requirements when compared to Google search results.Henry Louishttp://www.i95dev.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-68360432267454136532012-01-21T06:15:38.646-08:002012-01-21T06:15:38.646-08:00Google+ is for a lot of things already ahead of Tw...Google+ is for a lot of things already ahead of Twitter. It's bigger, faster and has better search ;).LaPingvinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16295019681389811515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-22505361527274969202012-01-20T18:09:58.794-08:002012-01-20T18:09:58.794-08:00RE: I genuinely feel sorry for the engineers who w...RE: I genuinely feel sorry for the engineers who work on this, they're building some cool features* but have no real way to measure how successful any of them are.<br /><br />This is an excellent point, and I agree with you very much here.<br /><br />RE: Google+ has some cool features, but it lacks actual desired adoption<br /><br />We're unable to determine whether or not that is true, given your previous excellent point.<br /><br />RE: Facebook and twitter still win there and will carry on doing so.<br /><br />I would have agreed with you until Search Plus Your World. If the doubling rate of sign-ups is 3 months the number of signed-up users will be astronomical by year's end. Sign-ups may not appear meaningful in terms of adoption, and they certainly aren't at first. However, given a critical mass people discovery is very much improved. And people discovery is a critical component of a communication network and can lead to important network effect (there are some fascinating examples of this from mail delivery companies in the middle ages in Europe).<br /><br />RE: I don't actually think that many people want a social search engine anyway<br /><br />I do, as do most people (but indeed not all) who I have asked. But that is only my small part of the world. It would be very interesting to know what the general opinion is of this in a few months. Their tactic of making it opt-out is remarkable, but I think it also exposes a belief that Internet users must be trained and not told.<br /><br />RE: Twitter - what people are saying *right now* about a subject 100x more useful than any content on Google+ right now, guaranteed.<br /><br />I'm beginning to doubt that, but two months ago I would have agreed. I've been watching this for various reasons. There are several key examples that suggests that Google+ is a low latency source of critical rich information. For example, Costa Concordia information surfaced first on Google+, largely because of the photography community:<br /><br />https://plus.google.com/u/0/115893768571611039178/posts<br /><br />Also, the social signals do not need to be numerous; a sparse signal is sufficient if it has low latency and high confidence (the frequency of signal is not the only source of confidence). <br /><br />If you have any more information that contrasts the latency of social signals, I would love to know. Essentially, I would like to know the time between the significant world event and it emerging on the major communication networks. It is very hard to get a hold of this information from most of the networks.<br /><br />However, again, I think your point about the engineers not have sufficient feedback about the value of the various features is excellent. They will need to make very difficult decisions, I imagine, because of that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-44999582081474126922012-01-20T16:36:11.354-08:002012-01-20T16:36:11.354-08:00I genuinely feel sorry for the engineers who work ...I genuinely feel sorry for the engineers who work on this, they're building some cool features* but have no real way to measure how successful any of them are.<br /><br />Google+ has some cool features, but it lacks actual desired adoption - sure it has loads of people signing up, but that's because Google is either begging (huge blue arrow on homepage) or forcing (you now have to be on G+ to have a Gmail account) people into using it. Sure a few people are using it, but not as their primary social network - Facebook and twitter still win there and will carry on doing so. Google missed the boat here, and should be working to integrate not trying desperately to catch market share at the expense of the quality, relevance and trustworthiness of their results.<br /><br />I don't actually think that many people want a social search engine anyway (and certainly not by default!! , most people search for facts or information from authorities - not opinions of their friends (after all, if they wanted those they'd ask their friends face-to-face/by phone or on facebook/twitter... <br /><br />Best thing Google could have done for social search? Got back around the table with Twitter - what people are saying *right now* about a subject 100x more useful than any content on Google+ right now, guaranteed.<br /><br />* less sure about the meme generator, but hey it's working for Cheeseburger Network so they'll copy it, then age them out of search results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-2368121240814612242012-01-20T15:27:17.914-08:002012-01-20T15:27:17.914-08:00Oh, the schadenfreude and sarcasm. For what it'...Oh, the schadenfreude and sarcasm. For what it's worth, I prefer Google+ (the social network) to Twitter, FB, Bebo, Orkut, Quora, Hi5, Friendster, etc... And, quite frankly, it is impossible for a product launched by a large internet company at this point without it having an advantage over smaller start-ups.<br /><br />(Google+ and the subsequent integration of services fascinating me and looks like ground-breaking tech. Think about it for a second; what happens when you have a truly social search engine. The endeavor is very intriguing and well executed when examined in that way.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-37264029895508393852012-01-20T14:54:50.808-08:002012-01-20T14:54:50.808-08:00The engineers working on Google+ must be so proud ...The engineers working on Google+ must be so proud to have built a product that is doing sooooooooo well through organic growth and based on the product's merits rather than by relentless promotion in the SERPs and forcing people to use it. Congratulations, go team!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-87790530760755111162012-01-20T14:49:04.725-08:002012-01-20T14:49:04.725-08:00I don't think they will close Orkut yet. They...I don't think they will close Orkut yet. They just released an iphone app for it. And it is really popular out side the usa. I do think they should retire it, but i don't think they will .. unless in a year or so they merge it with G+Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03955185053939711726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-25488442787405384752012-01-20T14:43:11.392-08:002012-01-20T14:43:11.392-08:00Sounds good to me.
Anonymous, I do not think the...Sounds good to me. <br /><br />Anonymous, I do not think they will be retiring to many more services, from I can Orkut is probably the last one they have not yet announce when they are going to close it down.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00017627173674962025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-49622711833801580552012-01-20T14:42:01.420-08:002012-01-20T14:42:01.420-08:00OMG I re-found that blog after 3 years, wow!
I re...OMG I re-found that blog after 3 years, wow! <br />I read it in my winter nights of 2008-09...Massy Biagio https://www.blogger.com/profile/02958858199214898867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-63115889684368809342012-01-20T14:32:07.259-08:002012-01-20T14:32:07.259-08:00Useless as it just creates an status update. Aardv...Useless as it just creates an status update. Aardvark was better as it *helped*, only the right (smart enough to answer) people saw your question...<br />Also, why did Google buy Aardvark when it would have stop working on it anyway?Madisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-42910488161322307542012-01-20T14:12:30.494-08:002012-01-20T14:12:30.494-08:00already know what i want to ask, but doesn't l...already know what i want to ask, but doesn't look like that feature has hit me yet :-/Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03579702608981127097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-10291276929883929902012-01-20T13:59:04.156-08:002012-01-20T13:59:04.156-08:00Alex. You're going to be busy this year if the...Alex. You're going to be busy this year if they are releasing a feature a day and retiring so many services.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-34571831172009030572012-01-20T13:57:20.318-08:002012-01-20T13:57:20.318-08:00OK. I would use this. Quora is useful and fun, but...OK. I would use this. Quora is useful and fun, but I would prefer these answers to be in the SPYW results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com