tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post8338915497846438739..comments2024-03-18T02:14:57.204-07:00Comments on Google Operating System: Will There Ever Be a Google OS?Alex Chituhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02618542750965508582noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-14584817675813321872011-03-20T17:42:25.172-07:002011-03-20T17:42:25.172-07:00Linux is free but hard as hell to use because I...Linux is free but hard as hell to use because I'm not that great with computers. Windows 7 is really easy to use and was also free (torrent). Google is all free too. I would love to see Chrome become a fully web based operating system. Maybe a hybrid of Android and Chrome possibly on whatever comes after the tab craze.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-82271074065445109632009-11-18T09:15:53.041-08:002009-11-18T09:15:53.041-08:00above Person no. 1 competitor is Microsoft also Fa...above Person no. 1 competitor is Microsoft also Facebook is coming up.islam nasheedhttp://islam44.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-2880564799949704612009-11-17T06:16:12.148-08:002009-11-17T06:16:12.148-08:00Will anyone help me to know who is the no 1 compet...Will anyone help me to know who is the no 1 competitor of Google?Poetryhttp://www.google92.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-64346979337744343922009-11-16T06:14:12.865-08:002009-11-16T06:14:12.865-08:00i cannot say but there must be.i cannot say but there must be.Asif Zardarihttp://asifzardarikuta.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-40566874820738832962009-11-08T08:52:54.069-08:002009-11-08T08:52:54.069-08:00Google is best in everything so why not os.Google is best in everything so why not os.latest newshttp://undertaker9.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-17066291438216873642009-10-01T06:15:53.770-07:002009-10-01T06:15:53.770-07:00i think yes.i think yes.Tariq jameelhttp://myislam.zoomshare.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-15698588624584731272009-03-12T06:52:00.000-07:002009-03-12T06:52:00.000-07:00shhhhh! bill gates wallet tells the story.shhhhh! bill gates wallet tells the story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-1415754294859561792008-11-28T10:48:00.000-08:002008-11-28T10:48:00.000-08:00Guys we have all strayed from the discussion, its ...Guys we have all strayed from the discussion, its not a linux, windows battle.<BR/><BR/>The discussion is about how google is approaching the OS distribution market.<BR/><BR/>Like i said in my previos coments. in a few more years the way people look at OS is gona change.<BR/><BR/>Google is just making it so that to do you're work you don't really care what lays below you just need a browser and you have all the tools you need to work.<BR/>OS are just gonna become the means to manage the hardware some type of "Advance BIOS" in the means you know its there and does his work and is transparent for the user.<BR/><BR/>I myself have seen many OS come and go i have been working with pc's since monochrome screens and punch cards. <BR/><BR/>But like a previous comment said in then all you want to do is type and have everything done in less steps as possible.<BR/><BR/>And what is gonna be more simpler to some one to be able to work on a centralize system from anywhere you go.<BR/><BR/>Take google docs for example, imagine you been able to access you're documents any where anytime and have the tools to work with them on hand and you don't need to worry of the hardware or software that lies below.<BR/><BR/>I support them to 100% only need a few more tools and i myself will be able to let of MS Office by example.<BR/><BR/>Sorry is my fraces seem kind of incoherent but my English is not the best, working on improving it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-14767751819654124462008-11-27T12:03:00.000-08:002008-11-27T12:03:00.000-08:00And one more thing.Google doesn't build new operat...And one more thing.Google doesn't build new operating system.They made a other distribution of linux.It's not a big deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-89251852695972599302008-11-27T12:00:00.000-08:002008-11-27T12:00:00.000-08:00Linux has a long way to go.Remember the first oper...Linux has a long way to go.Remember the first operating system of microsoft (I can tell u it was sucks).We have to be patientient.Many property of vista come from linux & gnome right now (I know microsoft guys mess it up) but still important point to remember.<BR/><BR/>By the way, how many operating system is compleately free for noncomercial organisation and home users? How many operating system can be configured compleately what your style? <BR/><BR/>The only problem is many hardware manifacturer still doesn't support linux and I know One day everythings gonna be fine.<BR/><BR/>Thats the difference between who you are and who you wanna be.ıf u really happy to have got.Then you can keep going on but if you wanna more.You gonna choose the linux, trust me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-70344357113668086982008-11-27T00:43:00.000-08:002008-11-27T00:43:00.000-08:00I am so sick of people saying "There's already a G...I am so sick of people saying "There's already a Google OS". Is it embedded in your computer like Windows or Mac? No. Just because people use a lot of Google Products, doesn't mean its an OS, they are web applications!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-35074186036231982592008-11-26T19:25:00.000-08:002008-11-26T19:25:00.000-08:00They already have a Google OS, haven't you seen it...They already have a Google OS, haven't you seen it yet? Open your eyes, it is everywhere. Cmon, you can do it, THINK....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05308227213553520391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-50656975822696616972008-11-26T01:25:00.000-08:002008-11-26T01:25:00.000-08:00I just tested out FanBox. It is so unresponsive an...I just tested out FanBox. It is so unresponsive and some of the applications are dead, such as the Web Browser and FanBox messenger. The Web Browser comes up with a blank page named "Untitled", and the FanBox messenger won't let me log into Google Talk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-31155950526539923642008-11-26T01:11:00.000-08:002008-11-26T01:11:00.000-08:00The first step for Google to create an OS would be...The first step for Google to create an OS would be to develop something like FanBox. With Google Apps and everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-66248234874566054862008-11-26T01:09:00.000-08:002008-11-26T01:09:00.000-08:00Internet this, Internet that. A Google OS doesn't ...Internet this, Internet that. A Google OS doesn't necessarily have to be associated with the Internet, but obviously seeing that about 99% of Google Applications on the web it would obviously be integrated into the web. A Google OS is basically inevitable for Google to consider, let alone develop. Why was Google brought up in the first place? To combat Microsoft.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-47225526588224669292008-11-22T20:09:00.000-08:002008-11-22T20:09:00.000-08:00Wow, I was thinking of going to ubuntu, I have and...Wow, I was thinking of going to ubuntu, I have and hate vista. I really want XP back, but thought about changing to Ubuntu because its free. After reading all that stuff - I dont think I will. I think Im stuck with vista unless I cough up cash for XP.StudySqueekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17650225350600731372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-72772130001290293512008-11-20T18:48:00.000-08:002008-11-20T18:48:00.000-08:00Wow, a lot of linux trashing here. You guys are be...Wow, a lot of linux trashing here. You guys are being just silly, I use Ubuntu every day, and I've never had to open the terminal except for curiosity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-17441942719050642592008-11-20T11:02:00.000-08:002008-11-20T11:02:00.000-08:00Linux is a toy. Nothing more.3ds Max? Not on Linux...Linux is a toy. Nothing more.<BR/><BR/>3ds Max? Not on Linux.<BR/><BR/>Adobe Photoshop? Not on Linux. (STILL no Raw support in Gimp)<BR/><BR/>Adobe After Effects? Not on Linux. (Jashaka is junk)<BR/><BR/>Adobe Flash? Nope.<BR/><BR/>Cubase? FL Studio? Reason? Nope.<BR/>---------------------------------<BR/><BR/>Yeah, Linux is awesome if you want to be terribly unproductive. And don't mention Wine, even you Linux guys know it's garbage. And it just proves that without yet *another* app, Linux still isn't ready to be mainstream yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-998496857506764982008-11-19T14:10:00.000-08:002008-11-19T14:10:00.000-08:00You are right Mattro. The phrasing of my comments...You are right Mattro. The phrasing of my comments were overly harsh, and I apologize. If you took it as trash talk, I am sorry for my manner, but it should be noted if I was on a windows blog and they were “speaking poorly” of Linux I would be just as vocal in my defense of you, and Windows could learn a lot from the Linux community too, especially in the area of the user configurability of the apps / OS for advanced users (that is one of my pet peeves). As a programmer, I am OS neutral, I really don’t care one way or another. OS’s are tools to me, platforms used to get work done, use the right tool for the right job. As for the commentary being unfounded, well while my criticism may have been harsh or overly dramatic, and I am sorry for that, I don’t think the spirit of it was meant to be mean nor were the comments inaccurate, I will stand by what I said. Look, in college, it was like there was a holy war between the 3 main OS out there. I wish I could say that was just college, but it’s not. If I was speaking ill of Windows here, maybe I’m wrong, but except for a few people here like myself, I don’t think anyone would have blinked. I am not saying Linux stinks and no one should use it, I’m saying this is an opportunity, and all the superiority attitudes, on both sides needs to go away. This is NOT a marketing thing, and or a computer ignorance thing, which seems to be common thought in the community. People are aware of who you are. You really don’t understand the power you have here. You could really kill MS if you really wanted to. But you will have to make some really big philosophical choices / changes to do it. First, you have to decided if you want to be a cryptic arcane OS that a few Geeks (Geek is not derogatory term here, it is a good thing) smile knowingly at themselves while they hit some strange control-Alt-F5-BackSpace key sequence that only they will be able to fully comprehend, while they configure some servers in the back room –Or- You want to be an OS that is main stream, used and loved by everyone. They are mutually exclusive. If it is the former, you are there. And that’s great. If it is the latter, you could eat up large chunks of MS market share and force MS to do the things you want. Excellent examples of this are the apps Mattro mentioned: Firefox, Google, etc. <BR/>If you want to be the OS everybody knows and loves there some things you will have to do: <BR/>1) Stop hating windows and learn from them. Yes MS is the 800 lbs gorilla on the block, but you guys have an advantage here you are not taking advantage of: Know thy enemy. MS has spent uncounted, boat loads of cash researching what makes sense to the average Joe. So... You don’t have to... All you have to do is look objectively at what they found. The first step in designing any product (and you need to look at your stuff as a product) is taking a look at what your competition is doing, and do it better. Maybe Ubuntu is doing that now... We’ll see.<BR/>2) Standardize.<BR/>a. You need to standardize a lot more of what you are doing. Does that have to be standardized from distro to distro? Maybe, but I’ll probably say “no” but that is up to the community and what the item in question is. But within a distro? Definitely. At the very least within major revision numbers. I don’t want to lose the forest for the trees here but you may be asking “What am I talking about?” One example: File structure. If you are a user using a program or a developer making a program where does it go in windows? Under programs. Why? Because it is standardized and has been that way forever. Of course this is just one small example here, but I have seen distros completely change file structures for minor rev .2 to .3. As a developer, if you write a simple install script that puts things in to the correct folders for you under rev .2, well it doesn’t work under rev .3 now. Even if the program is just fine. Yeah, I know there are other ways to handle that, but that is not the point. And from the user perspective, the average user doesn’t want to track “where did they put that widget now?” stuff. By the way, not to belabor the point and distract from the greater issue but there are Open Source .orgs that talk about this. It is not just me. An OS can be stable in many ways, no crashes are one, you guys have that nailed; stability in design is another. Change for the sake of change is instability. <BR/>b. If you really want the average main stream user to work more with the command line interface (or even some GUI apps that require some knowledge of it), if you are serious about it, become more user friendly, standardize it. Make the command line arguments mean the same things across the board: ex. someBinary –a where “a” means “all” (or something) and "a" means “all” everywhere. Maybe even name them something that makes sense and denotes what it does (“grep?”). I know this may not be practical for every single app out there, but 90% of the stuff it would, and your man pages would be much simpler. This could probably be done with a simple wrappers around the code until the community catches on. It doesn’t have to be that complicated.<BR/>3) The last thing (and from the developer stand point the importance of this cannot be understated). I know you guys are the valiant coders working part time for your open source apps, out there. I know it is tough, long hours, when it is just you or a small band of people, with limited resources trying to build or maintain something: it is an act of love. You want more help? You guys want to increase the code base? Want help keeping up with driver development? (or any other development?) I’m going say something really radical here so strap in... You have to get rid of the communal idea evil corporations are coming to get you and realize you are tying the hands of the developers who are willing to help you, but can’t. You HAVE to get rid of the GPL... Replace it with something like WOL. You really have to understand how this works: I am a developer for a corporation. We need some code that does something. I gratefully find some code on the web that is exactly what I need. It is GPL. I can’t use it without giving up all the company’s proprietary code. Company’s need proprietary code to stay in business. So they can pay their employees, so their employees can have a home and feed their dog. I can’t use it. I have to waste time reinventing something someone else already has. On the other hand, if I could use it, without the GPL restrictions, I would incorporate that code in to what I’m doing. While I’m doing that, with the time I gain by not having to reinvent the wheel, I’m more than likely to be developing more code that makes the original code better in some way. If it is not proprietary, then it is no skin off my nose to upload that back to the repository where I got it. Why not? You helped me, I appreciated it, I’ll help you. Companies have to write drivers and things all the time. You guys would really benefit from this. Yes, I know the Lesser GPL is better than the GPL for this sort of thing, but you *really* should check out his site: http://www.dspguru.com/wol.htm The guy who wrote the Wide Open License (WOL) gets it. I’m talking about a paradigm change here. The way of thinking about all this stuff above. The GPL is fine for academia, and some people who don’t mind working for free in their spare time in the basement, but for everything else... Well, you are burdening yourselves with not getting the help you need, and end user who is willing, but can’t use your GPL stuff and so feels the community doesn't benifit them, so why help out? This is really holding you back....<BR/> There needs to a philosophy change here, if you really want to do it, be main stream, it is within your power to do it. Your stuff could come out of the tech closet and be great. You really could give MS a run for their money. You don’t need marketing, people already know who you are. I have an idea they are watching and waiting right now... You have to look at people out there not as the “ignorant masses” but as potential customers (I know it’s free, but bare with the idea), a problem with an OS or an app is NOT the persons fault for not “getting” your design, it is YOUR fault for not providing a widget that meets their needs. <BR/>Look, I hope this was taken in the spirit it was intended, I may be plain spoken, but I am not trying to trash you and I mean that. Maybe this is a bitter taste, but it *is* constructive criticism for what it worth. And I wish you well. Good luck, really. And like Anonymous #1, I will also be giving Mint a shot with the next computer I get. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-21191925342093627782008-11-18T16:14:00.000-08:002008-11-18T16:14:00.000-08:00I'm the "original" (first) anonymous.. back after...I'm the "original" (first) anonymous.. back after a few days... LIke I said in my post, I've installed many different Linux operating systems, and I've given up on each one of them.. After seeing Mint Linux talked about here, I'll have to try it... One thing that bothers me is that I've kind of been accused here of not knowing what I'm doing with computers and it being no fault of an operating system if I can't figure it out... Just one minute... I've installed almost ALL of the MS operating systems over the last few years.. I started with Windows 95, came up all the way through Windows 98, Windows ME..on through Windows 2000 and am now working with XP... I haven't tried Vista. Now, I'm an old fart.. but, I've figured out partitioning.. I've repartitioned hard drives a hundred times... mostly for the fun of it..FAT-16...FAT-32 ...NFTS... I've installed each of these operating systems numerous times...uwing various partitioning.. Point being.. I'm not totally ignorant. But, I have yet to make a good, clean install of a Linux system, and then been satisfied with its performance... There has always been something wrong or something I didn't like. Again..I don't want to mess with command line garbage.. I guess I'm a little too old and set in my ways for that... But, MY MAIN POINT IS..."There is no desire by the majority of Linux nerds to make it easy. You put these nerds in a corner and if you press them too hard, they'll just start saying stuff like, "Maybe, if you're so stupid, you'd be better off just sticking with Microsoft.." Well, that's where I am, Bub... Anyway, I ordered a Mint Linux CD and I'm going to give her another whirl..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-59199421543244124522008-11-18T07:32:00.000-08:002008-11-18T07:32:00.000-08:00I think a good point to make here is that "trash t...I think a good point to make here is that "trash talking" open source proponents such as Linux, Firefox and Google will do "end users" no good. It has been these groups that have pushed MS to attempt to make better things (IE, Vista Aero, maybe Windows 7). Keep an open mind to open source, share it with friends and make thoughtful, constructive criticism to the people that matter. Unfounded criticisms on a blog such as this may only deter people from trying new possibilities and spurring the creativity that makes a beautiful, stable, safe and easy to use program.Mattro2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/00417819386624783954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-38147801699260633332008-11-17T20:04:00.000-08:002008-11-17T20:04:00.000-08:00Ok, I have to agree with the first anonymous. I a...Ok, I have to agree with the first anonymous. I am both a computer tech and a programmer. This is not a mater of waiting for people to "die off." Windows as had years of having to deal with the general public, dealing with customers, finding out how people think, to structure things for intuitive designs that make sense to the general population. They don't have to install it; it comes installed on 99% of the computers out there. All of the apps Linux users are so psyched about are equivalent to things MS had ten years ago. And those same apps have 10x more bugs in them than MS ever had in any of their stuff, yet MS catches all kinds of crap for the bugs they have. No one ever calls on the carpet the "bugs" Linux has because as open source, the app is constantly evolving. MS wouldn't make it 10 days if it offered products like that. <BR/>I don't want to be totally down on Linux. Linux does some things very well, especially in the server area. There are a lot of things I don't like about windows and when a viable OS comes along, I'll be happy to give it a shot. I was kind of hoping it would be Google, and probably a lot people were too or there wouldn't be the curiosity brewing about it. And Linux has come a long way. As noted by James, at least one distro seems to have figured it out with Ubuntu philosophy of intuitive user friendliness. They still have a ways to go, but it is a good start. I did not have the same luck with Ubuntu as James seems to have, it did not install correctly on the 2 machines I tried to install it on. Video cards were not supported (2 different cards) and I had no GUI. Now, we use Linux at work. SUSE 10 through SUSE 10.3. They install fine as long as you except all the defaults, if you want ANY of the bells and whistles, then it is not so straight forward. I tried other distros on my own time, same thing. Even after you get it installed things just don't "work", you have to mess with everything: "The gizmo that came with the distro doesn't work with the widget it is supposed to work with, better to download a newest one. Opps, that gizmo doesn't have a RPM or work with YAST, I'll have to compile it from scratch." Even when you do get it working it doesn’t do half the stuff you would expect it to. That includes music and DVD players. One doesn’t create play lists right, a large chunk of stuff out there doesn’t support mp3 format because of licensing issues so you have to use some strange format they do support, but most people have never even heard of. Half the stuff that is out there for the Linux OS are graduate student projects that were turned over to the Open Source Community for other people to maintain and mess with. Which is fine, if that is your thing... But, the average user is not going to put up with stuff like this…<BR/><BR/>Here is the point I think Linux people seem to be missing: People don't want to screw with stuff all the time. They just want it to work. And they don’t want to learn some cryptic command line interface ether. The point in using a computer is to make life easier for your self not have to waste time messing with things that are getting in the way of accomplishing the actual job you are trying to get done. If someone is writing a book, they don't want to load an operating system, screw with the operating system to get it working right, mess with YAST, mess with the command line, load a word processing app, screw with that to get it working properly, then write the book. They don't care about tech details, much less want to be bothered by them. They want to open a new box, pull out a computer, press the "on" button, and start typing. They don't have to think about it, it just works. They do not want to screw around with the computer. A computer is a tool, a means to an end, not an end in itself, and they don't want to mess with it. This doesn’t make them computer illiterate, they are choosing which OS to be literate on, they are choosing MS because MS has had to deal with the public for years, and know how to design a GUI. They want uniformity, familiarity, standard design; it cuts down the learning curve for learning new apps which boosts their personal productivity, cuts down on stress. I see the next generation using computers too. They tinker with Linux for a bit, but they always go back to using windows, for all of the above reasons. This is not dieing out. When an OS has mastered the ease of use MS OS does it will have a chance. I’m all for it. This is not a “free” software issue. People will pay money just so they don’t have to mess with things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-44122194319506385802008-11-17T07:41:00.000-08:002008-11-17T07:41:00.000-08:00Hunnter, I COMPLETELY agree.Vista took such as ste...Hunnter, I COMPLETELY agree.<BR/><BR/>Vista took such as step BACK with compatability with programs and drivers that I had to swtich to Ubuntu in order to get my programs, games, and drivers to work! Compatability isn't an issue anymore, with microsoft's Vista security policy.<BR/><BR/>As for ease of use, I taught my girlfreind how to use Ubuntu linux in 30 minutes. She's about as average with computer knowledge as it comes. All she does is upload pictures and surf the web, and the occasional word processing for her college courses. She now refuses to use windows. <BR/><BR/>The average joe can learn linux easy with distros like Ubuntu. The problem is, people just don't want to sit down and do it, even if it only takes an hour or so.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully when this computer illerate generation dies off and the new generations that rely on computers come up, linux will be a fighting force. However, while the majority of people who buy and own computers are rather computer illerate, this will not happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-81449229391952256692008-11-15T19:11:00.000-08:002008-11-15T19:11:00.000-08:00@ Anonymous : November 14, 2008 3:22 PM PDTSorry,...@ Anonymous : November 14, 2008 3:22 PM PDT<BR/><BR/>Sorry, but i don't believe you have even used any Linux recently.<BR/>I don't even nearly count myself as a Linux savvy user, and even i have never came across any of those things you mentioned, even drivers. (Seriously, partitioning?? my sister that failed Computing even knows this stuff)<BR/><BR/>The whole Linux driver absence issue is slowly becoming a non-issue each year.<BR/><BR/>In fact, i would go as far as saying that Vista has worse driver support than most Linux distros, specifically pre-SP1.<BR/><BR/>The reason Linux isn't as popular as Windows, OR Mac, is due to failed advertisement.<BR/>But who exactly is going to advertise it?<BR/>That is the question, and if answered, solution to Linux being "unpopular".<BR/>Oh, and of course that Windows is so cemented into most peoples lives that they (seriously) think that other operating systems are programs for Windows... Macs, even with advertising, can't beat Windows.<BR/>Look what happened when word spread of Ubuntu, it has became pretty damn popular due to word-of-mouth over the year, so much so that Dell offer it as an OS now. (Dell as an example, several others are now doing it i believe)Hunnterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01852482706595290298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18157064.post-26145699968119507722008-11-15T15:25:00.000-08:002008-11-15T15:25:00.000-08:00let's hope not.. no one needs to surrender low le...let's hope not.. <BR/><BR/>no one needs to surrender low level control to google.. <BR/><BR/>we already have linux, thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com