what they are not saying is how this will work with web cafes / public terminals
if someone installs Gears there and you check your Gmail... you'll get lucky (more or less :-). I guess there's a way to clean the Gears' cache, but how many will do it?
said on January 28, 2009 3:40 AM PDT:
This is huge. I have constant access to a pc but not always a connection. I have a desktop at home and in my office at work. I have a laptop installed in my truck and have one at home. If I have none of those I still have my Blackberry. The laptop in the truck is where I suffer connections the most. I use a t-mobile wireless card but I don't always have a connection. I have Gmail running simultaneously on all of them.
@Life Tester:
I don't recommend to use Gears on a public computer, but I doubt the computer will have Gears installed.
said on January 28, 2009 4:17 AM PDT:
I like it. I would like to see more control of what is being downloaded but it is a question of a few months I think.
said on January 28, 2009 4:29 AM PDT:
Awesome! Ive been waiting for this for so long!
Really great feature and waiting for it for a long time because when i am out of office i used to connect to net through GPRS
said on January 28, 2009 5:52 AM PDT:
@Life Tester:
I'm sure it will at least require you to 'log in' locally with your email account (no password) like offline Google Docs. But I agree with Alex Chitu that using Gears on a public computer would be insecure. The local SQLite database is not encrypted or password protected. Gears relies on OS security (user accounts, etc). Since Gears is really HTML 5.0b, I suppose HTML 5 browsers will have an option to disable the local database on public terminals.
said on January 28, 2009 6:22 AM PDT:
Where is Gears for the iPhone/iPod Touch?
It's great.I've got it already for reader, but not for gmail ;)
just waiting...
said on January 28, 2009 6:52 AM PDT:
When I saw this feature, I was really excited, but also annoyed since I like my gmail interface to be in a non-English language for practice. However, after messing around a bit, I discovered that if I change my language to English, enable some features in Labs, and then change it back to another language, the features I've enabled remain, and they're even translated! Wondering if this means that google is planning on rolling out labs to international users....
said on January 28, 2009 7:13 AM PDT:
No "Sending messages with attachments" ???????!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not quite sure to understand why...
spice said on January 28, 2009 8:58 AM PDT:
Nice Service but I was wondering if it means that offline gmailing will be adfree becoz one can't click ads offline
@Anonymous: Makes sense if caching attachments is also not possible (as I expect) which would on itself make sense as its kinda troublesome to safe binary files inside a sqlite database. (At least I got into trouble when I attempted it through a firefox extension)
said on January 28, 2009 11:02 AM PDT:
@GreatSlovakia: thanks for the technical explanation. But, this is a big feature missing I think. Too bad gears cannot handle this.
Still waiting for this to appear on my Apps account to test it! ;-)
Fran said on January 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT:
@Anonymous: Since you can't send the message while you're offline, you always have the opportunity to add attachments once you do get online later.
said on January 28, 2009 3:22 PM PDT:
Regarding offline mode on public computers... Let's say you have this option enabled as one of your lab features and you launch Gmail on a public terminal that has Gears installed. I would expect that Gmail warns you about the fact that you're about to create an offline copy of your gmail on this machine.
imma said on January 28, 2009 4:12 PM PDT:
@SchenkOnline: I expect it will work like docs, etc, and it will download only if you click on the green syncronise icon at the top right ;-) so you have to tell it to start syncing
I'm not certain, as i don't have it on my account yet to try :-/
@GreatSlovakia:
Gmail downloads the messages and their attachments. The only issue related to attachment is that you can't add files when you compose messagess offline.
said on January 28, 2009 6:36 PM PDT:
like it - anyone else seen a refresh on the gmail apps user interface? Looks a bit different after activating offline access for gmail...
said on January 28, 2009 6:54 PM PDT:
Whatever happen to Gmail themes for Google Apps users? Never got them.
Wondering why I haven't gotten this yet when friends of mine who didn't know about it and aren't even going to use it did...
I am waiting when it will be enabled in my account for a test.
Someone, please do it for me!
Are H. said on January 29, 2009 3:50 AM PDT:
Tried to activate the feature within my Chrome browser, but Gmail told me that I had to install Gears. Turned out that my Chrome version was not the latest one. Make sure that you upgrade to the latest version of Google Chrome if you run into the same problem.
t3mujin said on January 29, 2009 7:27 AM PDT:
I still have no offline mode in my Gmail, but if I understood correctly the GReader should have a similar algorithm for caching and download items, something more elaborate than "Swith offline button to download the first 2000 unread items"
Dumitru said on January 29, 2009 9:36 AM PDT:
Contact manager not being available offline is a big let down for me...
At least they are on the right track.
said on January 29, 2009 9:47 AM PDT:
Anyone knows where all these messages are being saved on the hard drive? Which folder?
thanks!
Yasir said on January 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT:
nice feature i was waiting for toooooooooooo looooooooong for an offline gmail.
Alex
I use mozilla mostly but I cannot get this to work with mozilla.
I downloaded gears and enabled offline but in mozilla everything freezes when I try to click the offline button. I then opened chrome and everything works fine. Can I only use one browser?
Post bug reports to the
Offline Gmail Group. Try enabling the Gears integration from Settings/Offline.
said on January 29, 2009 6:46 PM PDT:
It's pretty inseure, as if you don't have any logon password, or you leave open your windows session, anyone can get the ethernet plug out and check your mail knowing your username.......
napst3r2 said on January 30, 2009 7:42 AM PDT:
Alex Chitu
Where exactly Google Chrome stores all that files on Win XP? If my Gmail is 5 gigs full does that mean I need that much on the PC?
napste3r3 said on January 30, 2009 7:45 AM PDT:
Found about the Location of cached files. The second question remains.
imma said on January 30, 2009 10:02 AM PDT:
it's unlikely you'll need that much space, as it tryies to only sync recent & important emails ;-)
napst3r4 said on January 31, 2009 1:20 AM PDT:
Just synced, same space used as in Gmail! Would be cool if there is an option to exclude attachments.
btw is it possible to sync more than one account?
said on February 3, 2009 5:26 PM PDT:
When I receive gmail in French, advertising links automatically turn to French, also. They flip back to English when I read an English e-mail. How do they do that? Isn't mail private?
imma said on February 4, 2009 1:38 AM PDT:
@Anonymous - February 3, 2009 5:26 PM PDT
If by private you mean your computer(s) can see it, their computer(s) can send it to yours, store it and put adverts next to it using a list of adverts & an automatic process, then Yes - they are private ;-)
(otherwise No)
Oh, i missed out that the transfer of information is across a public phone system, although it may be encrypted if you opted to use https rather than http
Computers reading and writing information & passing it across the internet is necessary for it to be email, although encripting those messages so people with access to the computers on the route can't read the email is usually optional
said on February 5, 2009 7:20 AM PDT:
Where does gmail copy files at my pc for offline working?
how can I delete the emails that "gmail offline" has been downloaded?
imma said on February 5, 2009 7:29 AM PDT:
@Anonymous - February 5, 2009 7:20 AM PDT
It gets stored by Gears, i'm not quite sure where
A way to clear & disable it should be in your 'Google Gears' Settings
in Chrome that's Tools->Options->Under the Hood->Change Google Gears settings
in Firefox Tools->Gears Settings
i'm afraid i don't know for others as i don't have Gears installed for IE6/7, Safari, Opera & don't have any other browsers :-/
said on February 5, 2009 9:09 AM PDT:
I do not want to download attachments in offline gmail! how do i stop that?
said on February 5, 2009 10:00 AM PDT:
as soon as i can choose where the offline data is stored i will use this feature gladly, but my c drive is for programs only, it's too small for an email cache.
Caimps said on February 9, 2009 11:04 AM PDT:
Hello, I'm using the offline mode. Its fantastic but I would like to know how the files are stored and where in my hard drive. And how I can put a password for the offline gmail.
said on February 12, 2009 2:04 AM PDT:
It doesn't works on my new Mac unibody + Firefox.
Everything seems to work ok, it syncs emails and attachments, but when I connect again to gmail, sync is missing and I must start process again.
I reinstalled gears a couple of times, but problem is not solved...allways asks for a new full sync.
:-(
Eehern said on February 13, 2009 10:08 PM PDT:
I like this, but what file path is the mail stored? I don't have too much hard drive space left, and it seems like my space keeps on drifting dangerously close to 0. Is there a way to check how much space gmail offline is using? Is there a way to set it?
said on February 18, 2009 10:54 PM PDT:
Great idea and feature. But where is Google actually downloading my mail? I clicked around in it's interface and there is absolutely no indication of local file system path.
Also a very! good enhancement to this would be to allow a user to choose his file path.
said on February 23, 2009 3:16 PM PDT:
What an absolute nightmare!!
Think about it for just a moment ...
(1) No attachments when in off-lone mode – that means no pictures, no forwarding of email with attachments, it even mean no icons or avatars in your signature block.
(2) No ability to control what is (and isn't) downloaded and stored in cache. You might not think this isn’t important until you blow your download limit when Google decides to use the internet to move 3 years worth of email to your hard drive which they encouraged you not to delete because they offered endless free storage.
(3) What happens if you use multiple browsers on the same client platform – which browser knows about what?
(4) What happens if you run multiple platforms – a Desktop, a Laptop, a Netbook, and possible even a Smartphone. How does synchronisation occur across multiple browser and multiple platforms. What, for example, happens to multiple off-line caches stored on separate hard drives when you create and send an email using one platform, synchronise on another, and delete an email from another.
(5) What happens when you use a platform you don’t own (friend, café, hot-desk at work) which is “Gears enabled”?
What the bl00dy h3ll were Google thinking? Not a lot obviously!!
All Google needed to do was allow fat-email clients like Outlook and Thunderbird to synch up with their Gmail mail servers -- just like you used to be able to do with Outlook Express and Hotmail before Microsoft went soft in the head and banned it.
For those not impacted by the above limitations … fine, but your requirements seem so simple why would need offline email; but for those who will be impacted, why commit to something which you can’t control?
I’ve been waiting for well over 12 months for Google’s major offline application to materialise and then matured, and I can tell you the wait definitely wasn’t worth it.
imma said on February 23, 2009 4:00 PM PDT:
@anonymous
if you can see all these problems, you can see how to work round at least some of them.
1 - this is not a standalone email client, you understand clearly why you are obviously using one
2 - if it's doing too much at once, you can pause the downloading. have you actually looked at this?
3 - i assume you are decided already on your views and don't feel like actually trying it & telling us? not a problem that occurs for me as i only use gears on one browser per computer
4 - i image it's exactly the same as syncronisation between one offline computer & the web ... when you delete an email from one & sync it gets deleted from the other, similarly with creating new ones ... no problem
5 - you should perhaps read what it says when enabling such features as it tells you
ps - syncing with fat clients has been in for ages but the'ye just messy to set up
said on February 23, 2009 4:53 PM PDT:
@imma
The only mind I’ve made up is that unless a new feature or capability decidedly makes things cheaper and/or less complicated – I don’t need it. So, what I don’t need is a different way to achieve the same end – because all that does is present a new learning curve and a new set of problems to solve.
If Off-line Gmail doesn’t significantly overcome existing limitations or complexities in the way we work with e-Mail without adding its own set of limitation and complexities – then I’m guessing the world doesn’t really need it (as Google have discovered by having to drop so many of its other “experiments”).
BTW -- I have Hotmail, Gmail, and Yahoo e-Mail accounts and so have a reasonably broad appreciation of the “big 3” web-mail providers … and to maintain a balanced perspective I also use Outlook, Outlook Express, and Thunderbird.
In case you’re wondering -- one reason to use multiple browsers on the same platform is because Hotmail and others web-mail providers don’t permit multiple instances to be active in the same browser (ie: concurrent logons to different accounts) … hence the need to fire up multiple different browsers. What a pain – which just proves these companies don’t eat their own dog food, they just on-sell the end result.
And I do agree that setting up a fat e-Mail client to work with a broad range of e-Mail service providers is way too complicated – in fact it reflects the very origins of e-Mail pre-WWW and seems not to have moved on since. So, all Google had to do was apply their enormous intellect and make that bit simpler so we could all give three cheers and sign up for another Gmail account.
Oh, and also just for the record – My day job is identifying flaws in major new product - post design / pre-release. IE: I identify what the architects, designers, and developers failed to foresee – which believe me is often blindingly obvious.
imma said on February 24, 2009 2:27 AM PDT:
@Anonymous February 23, 2009 4:53 PM PDT
It sounds like you need a very rich application for what you want - this is(seems to be) a simple tool for solving the problem "How do I read my email when I don't have an internet connection?"
In my case it just makes my home use of email a little easier - it doesn't need to be a massive improvement or do something never seen before if it just makes email use a little easier.
I have Gmail, Yahoo & Facebook(Does that count? I use it for messaging in the same way, though it's rather simplistic) accounts and also use Outlook.
What they have done is approach it from the other direction - starting with webmail & moving towards a client style service and it has a lot further to go to get to what you want.
I guess the point i'm trying to make is 'This does not make it a useless, unwanted or annoying thing for them to have made, they just got your hopes up too far' :-/
- imma, programmer (to clarify - not for google)
said on February 28, 2009 6:42 AM PDT:
I love the option of offline access, but this is a no go for me because there is no password protection. The whole family (and the occasional friend)uses the computer. There needs to be some kind of access control. Anything in the works?
Jajati said on March 25, 2009 9:29 AM PDT:
Can any body explain me what is the difference between Offline gmail and Setting gmail in out look.
I can see it takes lots of Space from my hard disk.
said on April 10, 2009 1:50 AM PDT:
after installing and downloading the mails, what if i want to disable the feature and delete the downloaded mails? what do i do?
Would be nice if you could set the downloads to only be for 'unread' emails or for 'the last 200' emails. I'm a high-traffic user and 10,000 emails is way too much for my tiny hard-drive.
Would also be nice if you could change the file-path so that it saves emails to an external/removable hard-drive.
said on May 14, 2009 10:58 PM PDT:
well, i still cannot figure how apps account user can use offline feature...
any help from here?
Marco G said on May 24, 2009 12:14 PM PDT:
my c:drive is only 4GB and is nearly full. So I need an option to choose d: drive for gmail savings.
where does store offline gmail file?
pavi said on June 14, 2009 12:46 PM PDT:
i used gmail offline on chrome but when i use Firefox it doent shoe offline mode. When I activated offline mode in Firefox it start downloading my all mails again..so is it mean Google gear download once copy of my all mails for chrome offline mode and one for Firefox offline mode???
said on July 22, 2009 10:59 AM PDT:
I installed offline gears and since that time I have problems with opening gmail. It shows every button at the top (like archive, report spam, etc.) bottom by bottom instead of side by side. Also does not open gmail s.times offline.
I am using OS:XP and WebBrowser: mozilla
said on July 28, 2009 2:05 PM PDT:
Why it's difficult for Gmail team to allow label selection for offline access? Why Google always has to make decisions for us? Everyone knows how good a AI algorithm is, it can't fit for everyone!!
azmath said on September 15, 2009 1:01 AM PDT:
General Info: Offline data location
(Note: Show the hidden files)
The operating system and the browser you're using determine the location of your data. Below is a list of these locations:
Windows Vista
* Internet Explorer: C:\Users\user\AppData\LocalLow\Google\Google Gears for Internet Explorer
* Firefox: Database files are stored in the user profile directory. C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\{PROFILE}.default\Google Gears for Firefox
* Google Chrome: Database files are stored in the user profile directory. C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Plugin Data\Google Gears
Windows XP
* Internet Explorer: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Gears for Internet Explorer
* Firefox: Database files are stored in the user profile directory. C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\{PROFILE}.default\Google Gears for Firefox
* Google Chrome: Database files are stored in the user profile directory. C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Plugin Data\Google Gears
Mac OS X
* Firefox: Database files are stored in the user profile directory. Users/user/Library/Caches/Firefox/Profiles/{PROFILE}.default/Google Gears for Firefox
* Safari: ~/Library/Application Support/Google/Google Gears for Safari
Linux Firefox: Database files are stored in the user home directory. user/.mozilla/firefox/{PROFILE}.default/Google Gears for Firefox
Microsoft Windows Mobile Internet Explorer: Database files are stored in the Application Data directory. \Application Data\Google\Google Gears for Internet Explorer
said on September 22, 2009 8:34 AM PDT:
For me, the algorithm that selects automatically which folders to synch selected the two most useless folders, and omitted the Travel folder where I keep all my travel arrangements -- THE folder I need offline.
Oh well, time to download Thunderbird I guess. Sad to see them miss in such a silly way.
marco said on November 6, 2009 5:31 AM PDT:
Cool option but i hope password protection will be added to the tool and besides i wonder if and how the mail is secured/encrypted.