rahul said on May 9, 2006 3:57 AM PDT:
hey this is cool!!!
said on May 9, 2006 11:17 AM PDT:
too bad you cant use the winamp play/pause/next controls
said on May 12, 2006 3:32 PM PDT:
Great hack. However it doesn't seem be using Winamp's sound output module, so it doesn't go through the DSP nor can it be used with visualizations.
said on May 12, 2006 5:02 PM PDT:
couldn't find that ml_online.ini file...... =/
help me here plz!!
Kate said on May 12, 2006 9:19 PM PDT:
awesome tip! Thanks!
great idea man, thanks for sharing.
had a lil trouble with it but it resolved itself after carrying out these steps:
* uninstall winamp.
* install (make sure its the newest version)
* open winamp
*open media library and maximise the "online sevices" section
* now do all the stuff said in the post and it works
Martin said on May 13, 2006 4:42 AM PDT:
Thanks a lot, what a great tip. I really hate listing to music in a browser.
said on May 13, 2006 9:12 AM PDT:
If you can't find the file mentioned look in C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Winamp\Plugins\ml (of course replace USERNAME with your username). I still cound't make it work though. It said to enable Activex controls which are enabled. Oh well...
said on May 13, 2006 6:04 PM PDT:
it also works if you just reinstall without uninstalling first.
GAAH! 56%+ steady CPU usage on my 850-MHz Duron. and it's using more RAM than Firefox! never mind, I'll stick with the popup. :(
said on May 14, 2006 5:33 AM PDT:
My ml_online.ini file does not contain the line “ElementID7=-1″. I have tried adding the other lines but to no avail. Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks
Try finding the last line that says
ElementIDn=-1, where n is a number.
If you can't find one, download the latest version of Winamp (Winamp 2.21) from winamp.com.
said on May 14, 2006 9:09 PM PDT:
anyone know a similar hack to use pandora in itunes?
Vitor said on May 15, 2006 2:08 AM PDT:
Nice tip! Thanks! So much better to have this inside Winamp instead of an IE window. Thanks!!!
Twinmama said on May 15, 2006 10:42 AM PDT:
I am stuck with Winamp 5.13 because it is the only version that will work properly with the plugin I have for my ipod. Any chance this could be made to work for that version?
said on May 19, 2006 8:50 PM PDT:
> Great hack. However it doesn't seem be using Winamp's sound output module, so it doesn't go through the DSP nor can it be used with visualizations.
All it's really doing is up the Pandora mini-mode tuner SWF in an IE window (winamp's minibrowser). That's why it doesn't output through winamp.
(now, if one were to decompile the flash and figure out the data format, they could build a true plugin for winamp.*that* would be a nice hack. might violate terms of service, though.)
Mimz said on May 20, 2006 3:23 PM PDT:
Help! It doesn't work for me and I've done everything recommended here. I reopen Winamp and Pandora just isn't there.
said on May 21, 2006 2:37 AM PDT:
i had the problem, that winamp always changed tle line "ElementID7=7000" back to "ElementID7=-1". I activated the write protection for the file.
great hack, however if you have the absolute latest version of winamp you will find that there are more than 6 online outlets installed. just find the last one, say 10, and paste the same code replacing the 7 with whatever your last number in the list is--follow that with the -1 value for the second ID...if you break it..just delete the .ini file, run winamp, and browse to online services--it will rebuild the file and you can try again! good luck!
Xenapan said on June 30, 2006 11:47 AM PDT:
I have the same problem as mimz :( i changed the ini file but the online services section is still greyed out. anyone got a fix?
said on July 1, 2006 4:22 PM PDT:
I think I'm close because its in my media library, but for some reason when I click on it nothing shows up. Anybody else encounter this?
said on July 7, 2006 6:36 AM PDT:
Hey, Pandora.com just moved the mini player to another location and the hack doesn't work anymore. I tried to change the URL you gave to http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini, this is the new location but nothing happens.
I hope it's OK now. Thanks for the tip.
said on July 8, 2006 12:11 PM PDT:
Nice Find man much beter than running it in firefox Thanx. for future versions this does work instead of replaceing the Id=10<-1 replace Id=7 Line and itll work
said on October 2, 2006 8:24 AM PDT:
Hello,
i did everything described in the article but it doesn´t work. where in the media library (i can see the link!!) can i login with my pandora account or how can i navigate and define the music i want to listen to in pandora? i just see the link in the playlist section of the media library!
please give me a hint.
thx in advance!
Gizmo
You'll see an option in the "Online services" section. It's just like you do on Pandora's site.
said on October 24, 2006 10:00 AM PDT:
It seems like there`s a problem with displaying what song is beeing played, have anyone found a hack on that? I mean, if it works on winamp, msn would also show it.
said on October 26, 2006 1:13 PM PDT:
cool, BUT there is no ElementID10=-1, its JUST NOT THERE!!! help...
kut said on November 22, 2006 1:22 PM PDT:
It seems like there`s a problem with displaying what song is beeing played, have anyone found a hack on that? I mean, if it works on winamp, msn would also show it.It doesn't go through Winamp, it goes through the minibrowser, like Freeman explains.
Also, I've got 5.24 and ml_online is a DLL file, not INI. :/
Look here:
C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml\ml_online.ini
kut said on November 22, 2006 1:28 PM PDT:
http://i10.tinypic.com/4bhhes8.jpg
You probably have a separate settings folder for each user on your computer.
Go to this folder and try to find the file there. Start/Run and type this:
%APPDATA%\Winamp
kut said on November 22, 2006 1:40 PM PDT:
Oh, so awesome. Thanks.
Nquiz said on February 1, 2007 11:09 AM PDT:
Doing that kind of technical work (changing those notepad entries) is way over my head. I keep opening up that file C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml\ml_online.ini
and replaced first the 10 then the 7 and Pandora will eventually come up in Microsoft IExplorer (I normally use Firefox)because in Winamp it says
"New Location We're sorry, the minimized pandora player has moved. Please update your bookmark to http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini"
Could someone please post an updated step by step solution to this for the latest Winamp?(I have version 5.32) I've spent many fruitless hours on this. I just hope to see the song titles in my taskbar! Thanks
I updated the post for the latest version of Winamp, which seems to overwrite that file often. Please tell me if it works for you.
Nquiz said on February 1, 2007 1:36 PM PDT:
Thanks I tried and tried without luck so far. First I replaced the ElementID11=-1 with what you suggest, then I tried replace the last number i could see 12 with this:
ElementID12=12000
ElementIcon12=12007
ElementSubbed12=1
ElementName12=Pandora
ElementURL12=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementID13=-1
but now no mention of Pandora at all in Winamp? Thanks for the help.
Make that file read-only. It's important. Here's
my ml_online.ini. You can overwrite yours.
Great tip! Thanks. I have a special interest in this as I have created a Wrapper Application for Pandora that runs Pandora in your system tray. Right-clicking on the tray icon will give you all the controls such as Pause/Play/Next/Vote etc
Check it out here :
Pandoras BoxDaniel.
Nquiz said on February 1, 2007 4:19 PM PDT:
Thanks for the last 2 replies.Actually I tried that "Pandoras Box" which I had tried without success before and it seems to be working now. I haven't tried changing the Winamp file because I don't want to mess with it until I have to. Much thanks for the quick replies too!
Ben said on February 13, 2007 9:09 PM PDT:
I got this to work with no problem but I just wish there was a way to scroll around in the window because I can't see all of the page unless I enlarge the media library way bigger than I normally run it, anybody have any idea how I can include a couple scroll bars on the top and side
Ben said on February 13, 2007 9:23 PM PDT:
Or even better how I can get rid of some of the white space around it, mine doesn't look anything like the one on this page it's got white space all around it
The advantage of doing this is that one needn't have a browser open? Is there something else? I always want info on the artists, etc. and usually have browsers open so perhaps this is not for me. Does StreamRipper work well with this setup, and perhaps that is the advantage?
No, StreamRipper doesn't seem to work with it.
said on March 17, 2007 6:27 PM PDT:
to work with the new versions of winamp you have to add a new line, the GUID line, I have something like this in my file.
ElementID10=11000
ElementIcon10=11007
ElementSubbed10=1
ElementName10=Pandora
ElementURL10=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementGUID10={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
said on March 20, 2007 4:00 PM PDT:
great, thanks.
Ben said on March 22, 2007 12:09 AM PDT:
I still need to find a way to add scroll bars to this, when I do it half the mini-browser is filled up by an add so I can't see all of pandora player
Blair said on June 2, 2007 8:00 AM PDT:
I tried everything to get this to work by changing the 11 and 12 value, the changed the 10... the way that worked for me using winamp 5.35 and firefox 2.0.0.4 was to change the 7 value lines only, I pasted the code above in place of all the '7' values and change the code pasted from the '11' value to '7' and it worked like a charm. in fact here's what I pasted maybe the whole file would help, I know I was looking for one: (BTW, if you can't find you ml_online.ini file you can change the file type from txt to all files and it's there
[ml_online_config]
maxbandwidth=350
minbandwidth=1
uid=WA-599812B1BC944BAD8AB394C4F76B6E1A
SerialNumber=22
ElementID1=10000
ElementIcon1=11008
ElementSubbed1=1
ElementName1=Winamp Remote
ElementURL1=http://www.orb.com/winamp/index.html
ElementID2=10100
ElementIcon2=11001
ElementSubbed2=1
ElementName2=Shoutcast Radio
ElementURL2=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/sc/
ElementID3=10200
ElementIcon3=11002
ElementSubbed3=1
ElementName3=Shoutcast TV
ElementURL3=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/tv/
ElementID4=10300
ElementIcon4=11003
ElementSubbed4=1
ElementName4=Winamp Music
ElementURL4=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/wav/
ElementID5=10400
ElementIcon5=11000
ElementSubbed5=1
ElementName5=AOL Videos
ElementURL5=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/av/
ElementID6=10500
ElementIcon6=11000
ElementSubbed6=1
ElementName6=AOL Radio with XM
ElementURL6=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/xm/
ElementID7=11000
ElementIcon7=11007
ElementSubbed7=1
ElementName7=Pandora
ElementURL7=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementID8=-1
ElementID8=10800
ElementIcon8=11004
ElementSubbed8=1
ElementName8=SingingFish Search
ElementURL8=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/sf/
ElementID9=10900
ElementIcon9=11007
ElementSubbed9=1
ElementName9=In2TV
ElementURL9=http://www.winamp.com/bin/om/in2/
ElementID10=-1
ElementIcon10=11007
ElementSubbed10=1
ElementName10=Pandora
ElementURL10=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementGUID10={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementIcon10=11007
ElementSubbed10=1
ElementName10=Google
ElementURL10=http://www.google.com
ElementID11=-1
ElementIcon11=11007
ElementSubbed11=1
ElementName11=Pandora
ElementURL11=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementID12=-1
ElementIcon12=11007
ElementSubbed12=1
ElementName12=Pandora
ElementURL12=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementGUID12={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
avmaxbandwidth=300
ElementGUID1={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID2={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID3={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID4={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID5={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID6={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID7={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID8={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID9={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
Benjamin said on June 20, 2007 1:00 PM PDT:
I guess this doesn't work with Vista (Winamp Ver. 5.35)
said on August 30, 2007 12:09 PM PDT:
I tried this addition because pandora does not play through all my speakers via firefox while winamp does. I was attempting to get pandora to play through winamp's output to correct this problem.
All this addition does is create a browsing window in the winamp supplied browser and does not actually play through winamp's outputs whether it be sound or text display.
said on January 18, 2008 5:22 PM PDT:
can someone update this it seems to be obsolete now...
Just updated to a newer version and noticed it didn't load Pandora. I delete the contents of the file and let winamp regen it. Only had 7 elements so added Pandora as the 8th (instead of 11th). Now it works. By far the best plug-in for winamp.
said on February 13, 2008 5:09 AM PDT:
For Winamp 5.52
Use this path
C:\Documents and Settings\"USER NAME"\Application Data\Winamp\Plugins\ml
SpE said on March 4, 2008 1:01 AM PDT:
ian's comment above worked for me. However I'm stuck with same problem many mention -- it just plays in the browser tab not through winamp's sound output. Anyone figure out a way to get Pandora to play through all speakers like Winamp does?
@SpE:
That's obviously impossible. You're only viewing a page that has nothing to do with Winamp and its audio system.
SpE said on March 4, 2008 2:15 AM PDT:
SpE said on March 4, 2008 2:19 AM PDT:
Right, this method. That's why I'm asking if there's another way ;-) For example, it might be possible to write a Firefox Add-on that pushes sound to all speakers. The issue I'm trying to solve is I'd like to listen to Pandora and have it play through all surround speakers, rather than just 2.
jcran said on June 6, 2008 8:30 AM PDT:
great little hack. had to set mine to:
ElementID7=11000
ElementIcon7=11007
ElementSubbed7=1
ElementName7=Pandora
ElementURL7=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementID8=-1
thanks!
J Thane said on June 23, 2008 9:32 AM PDT:
So all it really does is open Pandora in Wimamp's browser... Hm, that was a bit misleading...
jimatwcu said on July 8, 2008 2:29 PM PDT:
Why not just use OpenPandora (http://openpandora.googlepages.com/)? Nice slim client with notify for last.fm among others. Putting this in WinAMP is just like opening a browser window...
romanik said on July 17, 2008 8:31 AM PDT:
OpenPandora is great - I love it!
Scott E said on August 31, 2008 2:09 PM PDT:
This works.. it took me a while to figure out what everyone was talking about. Also, make sure you're not using winamp while you do this!
If you told Winamp to use separate settings for each Windows 2000/xp/vista user then you're going to find this ml_online.ini file in:
C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml \ml_online.ini
Next, pandora.com decided to change the URL from:
http://www.pandora.com/?cmd=tunermini
to:
http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
After I made those two adjustments it was working perfectly! Thanks www.shupe.ca :)
Ben said on September 3, 2008 10:38 AM PDT:
Saved mine under both:
C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins\ml\ml_online.ini
C:\Documents and Settings\"USER NAME"\Application Data\Winamp\Plugins\ml
as:
[ml_online_config]
SerialNumber=29
ElementID1=10100
ElementIcon1=11001
ElementSubbed1=1
ElementName1=SHOUTcast Radio
ElementURL1=http://client.winamp.com/om/sc/
ElementID2=10200
ElementIcon2=11002
ElementSubbed2=1
ElementName2=SHOUTcast TV
ElementURL2=http://client.winamp.com/om/tv/
ElementID3=11000
ElementIcon3=11007
ElementSubbed3=1
ElementName3=Pandora
ElementURL11=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
ElementID4=-1
maxbandwidth=350
minbandwidth=1
uid=WA-948CDBCE5F944F648C3BB1AE52A410E0
ElementGUID1={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID2={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
ElementGUID3={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
Wanted to remove the AOL crap as well, which is why I replaced Pandora there. Set both files as "Read-Only" launched Winamp and does not display. Either way I do it as described here or this way the Pandora option does not display...
Any help?
said on November 25, 2008 8:48 AM PDT:
Worked perfectly, the file is in the application data. But works perfectly thanks alot
said on November 25, 2008 8:49 AM PDT:
You have to change the pandora one to..
ElementURL11=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini to
ElementURL3=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini change all the elementURL to whatever number comes after the last one u have
j said on December 19, 2008 5:57 PM PDT:
what's the point? you're just using winamp as a browser... it's not extracting any data that can then be synced with GoogleTalk...
so what IS the point?
thanks. it is nice to know how to do this...
Sean said on April 23, 2009 8:20 PM PDT:
kind of a waste. what's the difference loading it in WinAmp vs. your browser? This doesn't actually use the Winamp application at all!
Make something that works with the actual application, controls, visualizations... otherwise this is pretty much useless.
for winamp 5.552 there is another step you need to take:
1. open %appdata%\Winamp\plugins\ml\omServices
2. create a new .ini file
3. copy & paste the following into the file:
[OnlineService]
id=0000011000
name=Pandora
url=http://www.pandora.com?cmd=mini
icon=11007
subscribed=1
legacy=1
version=1
4.save the file as "omService_{0000011000}.ini" without quotes
and thats it!
-mattmotaa
said on June 29, 2009 10:18 AM PDT:
I actually found a great windows app on http://www.pandorasbanana.com/. This thing is awesome. Allows you to minimize pandora radio to your system tray with unlimited play and has a bunch of other cool features. My favorite is the option to startup with windows while minimized to your tray. I sound like a commercial Go internet radio!!
said on July 9, 2009 7:25 AM PDT:
I got Winamp 5.552, and adding the online service following motaaaaaaaaaaa's instructions worked great. However, when I click on Pandora in Winamp, it start loading the page, and then gives me an error message (The URL could not be parsed).
Any ideas anyone?
said on July 20, 2009 8:48 PM PDT:
To the person who gave the Pandora's Banana link:
Download link is broken.
said on August 23, 2009 2:11 AM PDT:
ok look everyone calm down. really have you read about winamp have you checked with them? oh my god its simple.
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64973
i was listening to pandora. winamp was open. i pressed Ctrl-L
typed in "linein://" and hit Open (no quotes).
Alt+D and i was done.
said on October 20, 2009 9:43 AM PDT:
@Hotep Hatt
I tried that and it didn't work. Can you explain a little more?
